A spanner in Brexitier's works

[princealbertofb]

Let's hope you're wrong, [MENTION=18508]East[/MENTION], if he does get in. But more than that, let's hope he never gets in.

[East]

Let's hope you're wrong, [MENTION=18508]East[/MENTION], if he does get in. But more than that, let's hope he never gets in.

I hope he never gets in.....but even if he doesn't there will be violence as he has told his followers to use the 2nd admendment (guns) ...and that the election is fixed if he loses.

.....and he has ZERO impulse control....so letting anyone who has no impulse control next to a nuclear weapon is pure insanity. OF COURSE he will use them...no question at all in my mind.

[TigerLover]

I have noticed the same people who voted to leave are also fans of Trump.....

You better hope he doesn't get in.....because you probably won't be alive long enough to enjoy your independence. He will definitely use the bomb.....and no one will be safe...

Oh don't worry he's losing across the board and he already ceded a crucial swing state. Plus he's lost the Black vote, the women's vote, the LGBT vote, the Hispanic vote and the Asian vote.

Pewee Herman stands a better chance of becoming president.

[East]

Oh don't worry he's losing across the board and he already ceded a crucial swing state. Plus he's lost the Black vote, the women's vote, the LGBT vote, the Hispanic vote and the Asian vote.

Pewee Herman stands a better chance of becoming president.

He has a very good chance of winning....one more terror attack and we are screwed.

Never underestimate the power of fear.

The LGBT vote is gone...have you been reading this board? Most everyone is either for Trump or another candidate..which is a vote for Trump. ....and there are plenty of people in each of the other groups voting for him.

BTW...very few LGBT people even vote...seriously.....

He also has the Russians undermining the election and already being investigated in three states.....

[TigerLover]

He has a very good chance of winning....one more terror attack and we are screwed.

Never underestimate the power of fear.

The LGBT vote is gone...have you been reading this board? Most everyone is either for Trump or another candidate..which is a vote for Trump. ....and there are plenty of people in each of the other groups voting for him.

BTW...very few LGBT people even vote...seriously.....

He also has the Russians undermining the election and already being investigated in three states.....

Oh relax. Even a terrorist attack couldn't resurrect Trumps campaign. He's even losing the polls in Ohio and Florida now. if even Floridians aren't crazy enough to vote for him then who is.

Trump has always struggled with women. But surprisingly his policy of grabbing women by the pussy didn't help. Nor did flirting with underage girls and creeping on his own daughter. May I remind you that women are over 50% of the vote.

But the biggest indicator is that most of the other major Republican politicians are publicly denouncing him and abandoning his campaign.

It's going to be the Agincourt of political campaigns.

In fact if Donald Trump wins I swear on my honour that I will go to my hairdresser and my local tanning salon and get a matching tan and haircut.

[LONDONER]

Yes that is true. But the housing shortage is not just in the UK. We are having a housing shortage here too, but no French person or British person wants to be a builder anymore. So maybe we do need people from the other countries to help with that part of the economy?

To some extent I agree with you PrinceAlberto. This is interesting, I saw it on SKY news this morning:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fresh-british-...00433.html

That is a disaster waiting to happen.

I wasn't suggesting that would should stop all immigration from EU countries and that article goes to prove just why. What I was saying was that we should stop EU migrants who have no intention of contributing anythingt o the British economy. For instance we have had an influx of Romanians who it has been proved have large houses and luxury cars in their own country and yet come here, sleep on the streets and beg very aggressively.

I recently refurbished my house here in London and among the excellent, hard workers I had were Poles and Lithuanians. No complaints there.

[CorsacReborn]

There's too much for me to quote here so I will put some of my points here, beware for the wall of text.

My vote to leave was never influenced by the likes of Nigel Farage or Boris Johnson, and I especially hate it when people liken me to those people as my views are based on what I have seen, experienced and other stories that I have read about.

Its about time that people respected that there are leavers who actually made up their own minds without any assistance from the leave campaign. To talk down leavers as racists as bigots when there are plenty of those who hid their own racist and bigoted and voted remain is a huge hypocrisy in my opinion. It shows that the hateful nature of this country reared its head from both sides of the argument.

Immigration needs capping and we need to focus on immigration that benefits this country through the skills that are being brought into the country, free movement doesn't allow this as too many people end up in the UK . I live in an area where there is lots of unskilled work, however unskilled EU workers are being chosen above UK workers by recruitment agencies because of stereotypes of their hard work wrongly being assumed. Those who work hard for professions that aid this country like those in the NHS are vital but those who train in the UK move abroad because of how awful the system is worked within the UK compared to places like Australia where they can earn more money for working less hours with less stress.

Around 5 years back I worked for a warehouse where there was a large EU worker presence with the UK workers making up around 40% in that particular location, when the company started releasing performance charts it was in fact the UK workers who were at the top and not the EU workers. Because of this the EU workers attempted to create a race row and state that the company were working against them (the company was German owned), working against the exact people who stood in places typically out of sight and spent most of the time talking in their own languages rather then doing what they were being paid for. I was still able to chat with my workmates and walk away with £150-£200 extra in bonuses each month and was within the top 5 each month when the stats were published. This has also been shown to me in other workplaces where there has been a high EU presence, the reason that companies don't do anything is because they don't want to face the backlash of racism claims, but British people are still expected to prove themselves when my own experience is that they work harder anyway even when they have proven skills and track records.

The laws of this country need to be taken back to be decided within the UK without the EU poking its nose in. We have a completely different culture to many of the countries within the EU and having "one size fits all" laws have not worked as intended. There have been cases where people in the UK have rightfully been found guilty of awful crimes and given prison sentences to match the severity of the crimes, with many sentences being overturned by the EU court of human rights by judges who don't seem to care about the severity of the crimes that have taken place meaning that criminals get petty sentences.

The EU has become extremely irresponsible with the managing of the countries that are within it, and this was massively highlighted with the Incredible downfall of Greece because of the amount of debt that they were allowed to have with very little guidance on how to manage it.

There are very little people who actually like trump on either side in the UK, I personally think he's a massive moron and lacks the integrity to run the United States but respect that the vote is up to the residents there so I don't get involved in their politics.

In terms of the housing crisis, its real and its a mixture of many things which has caused the issue but immigration has not helped it at all, social housing is being bought by tenants with "right to buy" which then means there is less for local councils and housing associations to supply to people who really need it. People have migrated away from their own jobs and homes and come to the UK with children and made themselves homeless, only to be placed first by the UK councils and housing association, if they really cared for their kids they would teach them to not do something as dangerous as this and encourage them to work in a way that benefits their own country's economy because it is possible. Being a part of the EU is no excuse to do things like this and put your own family in danger.

As far as building work and trades are involved, most EU migrants who do that over here do not know the regulations that are in place within the UK and make no effort to learn this, I have a family of many people who work across all trades within building and construction and have heard countless stories of work done by EU migrants which has been not only done illegally but left some of their clients and customers with dangers that could even inflict death on a person. Anyone wishing to take up a trade in this country should be certified within this country as there are standards that need to be kept to ensure that people aren't at risk after work has been completed. My father is an electrician and he had to fix the work of a Romanian person who was supposed to do the basic job of installing plug sockets for a customer, not only did they leave exposed wires that were live and deadly and even completed would never had been signed off by a professional, he fell asleep in the woman's specially adapted bed that she had for her disabled child. These sockets were important as the disabled child was in need of many pieces of equipment to aid their quality of life. The woman expressed the issue to both the Romanian before and my father. A job which was taking days for the Romanian took just hours to be done and corrected to legal regulated standards by my father. My father discounted the work he did for the customer because she was charged before by the Romanian before who effectively did nothing.

I have far too much stories and other stuff that I could tell everyone about but its getting tiring writing on this subject now. You don't have to be intelligent to know that there are benefits to leaving, but you also don't have to be a racist or bigot to have voted leave either. Those 2 labels that are tarred across the whole of the leave voters is extremely ignorant. The remain campaign didn't do enough to convince leave voters of any benefit to being within the EU other then the single market, Cameron also failed to get a deal that the UK public wanted. Leave voters voted leave because of how the many disappointments from being in the EU and the failed negotiations beforehand have left them to feel in this country. Don't be fooled into thinking that Idiots like Farage held that much over the voters, one voice doesn't control 52% of voters.

[princealbertofb]

To some extent I agree with you PrinceAlberto. This is interesting, I saw it on SKY news this morning:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fresh-british-...00433.html

That is a disaster waiting to happen.

I wasn't suggesting that would should stop all immigration from EU countries and that article goes to prove just why. What I was saying was that we should stop EU migrants who have no intention of contributing anythingt o the British economy. For instance we have had an influx of Romanians who it has been proved have large houses and luxury cars in their own country and yet come here, sleep on the streets and beg very aggressively.

I recently refurbished my house here in London and among the excellent, hard workers I had were Poles and Lithuanians. No complaints there.

When I go to England I live in the Fens, and there are fields all around us where they do the growing of many a vegetable. When harvest time comes I can't hear any English voices, they are all from Poland, or Lithuania, or Romania, or you name it... No wonder some people in Wisbech are complaining that there are too many Eastern Europeans around. But they're the ones keeping the factories open and the crops collected from the agricultural lands.

[LONDONER]

When I go to England I live in the Fens, and there are fields all around us where they do the growing of many a vegetable. When harvest time comes I can't hear any English voices, they are all from Poland, or Lithuania, or Romania, or you name it... No wonder some people in Wisbech are complaining that there are too many Eastern Europeans around. But they're the ones keeping the factories open and the crops collected from the agricultural lands.

Too true, too true. The problem is that there are many British who just don't want to do that type of work basically because they know that they can get hand outs from the State. It's not exclusively the immigrants that are sponging off our system.