Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia

[kindy64]

Either way, whether you vote or not, it will be one of the two...

I mean we can place bets....I'll bet you anything that either Trump or Clinton will win...

But the choice is more than just voting for either of those too...

one of them will win, but there are more choices than voting for either of them...

[InbetweenDreams]

Right, so you're just making it clear that people have the choice to waste their vote on a 3rd party candidate or not vote at all...

My guess is that most people here don't want Trump in office and also don't like Hillary. So a vote for the 3rd party which we know will not win is a waste, not voting...is well not voting. See where I'm going with this?

Unless you actually want Trump in office, I don't, the only logical course of action is to vote for Clinton.

[Emiliano]

Voting third party is not a wasted vote. Especially if you're voting third party on the local scale. But voting for a third party president without that party having a substantial presence in congress isn't going to do any good for anyone even if a third party candidate were to be voted in as president. Look at what the republicans did to Obama. You think the major parties are just going to join hands and throw their support behind a third party president?

[InbetweenDreams]

Voting third party is not a wasted vote. Especially if you're voting third party on the local scale. But voting for a third party president without that party having a substantial presence in congress isn't going to do any good for anyone even if a third party candidate were to be voted in as president. Look at what the republicans did to Obama. You think the major parties are just going to join hands and throw their support behind a third party president?

Local is one thing, when it is state, county city. I agree with pretty much what you're saying. I think it has been brought up before ,for a 3rd party to successful has to grow from the ground up not the other way around.

The only one thing I see wrong with Russia and the apparent lack of ties to Donald Trump is that if the Russians were just trying to disrupt the election process...why do anything at all? I'd say it is pretty disrupted if you ask me...at least this election.

[artyboy]

Lol just saying if Trumpy gets in it will prove everything why people dislike United States of America and no is going to take him seriously. Bit like Nigel Farage being PM of great Britain lol.

The world we are living is bloody a bloody joke atm. Can't anyone see this isn't going to end well.

[Emiliano]

I think it's silly to think that Putin would support Trump for any other reason than that he is an inexperienced leader and a destabilizing force. It's Trumps ego that makes him think Putin respects him or views him as anything more than an obnoxious shit.

[Confuzzled4]

It's a difficult threshold, but if a third party candidate receives 5% of the popular vote they qualify for additional funding in the next presidential race. Again see Ross Perot; however, that is not going to happen in this election.

[meridannight]

You guys seriously need to get this election over with already. It's not as dramatic. Trump is not going to win. And once it's done we're still all on the same planet, living the same life, nothing much will change.

[InbetweenDreams]

It is terrible how people become so terribly divided over politics.

[LJay]

Artyboy, I can see how it may not end well. As a matter of fact it has already ended poorly.

I simply cannot vote for a guy who is essentially a blowhard who has learned from being in business that if you say things that people want to hear they will let you do as you please. Delete the slogans and the buzzwords and there is little left.

As for our other choice, we are left to pragmatism more than real election. Pragmatically we simply get past our current dilemma so that we can deal with the situation a week from now.

Somehow people want to think that they can pull a lever and things will be all OK. That is simply not the way it is this time. Instead of the All OK button we will have to chose the Best Chance button.

As I see it, if I were conducting a job interview and one applicant had little experience and not much to offer other than saying that they would depend on advisers to get the job done while the other had close acquaintance with the operational aspects of the job and appeared to want to jump in and act on their own, the choice would be obvious. Sometimes you have to do that in hiring.

To end this harangue, we should note that the US president is really just one cog in a large machine, not a monarch. Our most serious problem, as I see it, is really the relationship between executive and legislative branches. In that case we must remind ourselves that the choice is between a ruler by fiat and a person with international diplomatic experience.

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