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Two abstract paintings
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LONDONER Wrote:Thanks [MENTION=20947]MikeW[/MENTION] for posting that, very interesting and very beautiful. What other hidden talens do you have?!

Well, as well as being a fine arts painter (and the 'light modulator' series shown in that video are only ONE type of painting I'm known for) I work in the digital graphics field. I've also collaborated with other artists using video technology. (That is, we were not creating 'videos' in the traditional sense, but using video technology to create new art forms.) I'm a body builder. However, I didn't start working at that until about four years ago, at age 64, so it's not like I have some sort of Adonis body. Still, I'm told by my personal trainer that from the POV of being 'in shape', strength, focus, stamina and etc, I'm in the top 1% bracket for my age group. I have been an IRL volunteer counselor for gay youth through a local non-profit and still do so on my own online. I'm also a mystic, practiced in the esoteric arts, but about that, I seldom speak.
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#22
I hate criticizing as I love your posts but I always think these kinds of pictures can be done with by a 5 year old at school.. I remember there was a similar picture of a house in similar paint style and it went for a few hundred grand at auction - a news tv station got a class of children to draw the exact same picture and the put them all up on a board and asked experts to pic the expensive one out and they all failed - art is deffo in the eye of the beholder I believe
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#23
I enjoy abstract art because it feeds my imagination. These paintings seem solid and substantial to me, the range of colors used as well as the structure. They have an urban feel, a dynamic and vibrant urban area. The first thing I thought of was Boston's new and evolving Seaport District.

Imagination and curiosity are such a gift! Thanks for posting these images.
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matty7 Wrote:I hate criticizing as I love your posts but I always think these kinds of pictures can be done with by a 5 year old at school.. I remember there was a similar picture of a house in similar paint style and it went for a few hundred grand at auction - a news tv station got a class of children to draw the exact same picture and the put them all up on a board and asked experts to pic the expensive one out and they all failed - art is deffo in the eye of the beholder I believe

Don't worry about critisising me [MENTION=19211]Matt[/MENTION]y, I can take it and I don't claim to be infallible.

Some, I agree with you but definitey not all. What about my avatar for instance? Also, it is the original idea that is important, the original act of creation. Asking schoolchildren to make a copy is not creative. I will agree with you that some even well known "painters" who are worth millions, are absolute rubbish. Damien Hirst for instance. He just employs a lot of people to work out his ideas for him. That is definitely not art in my opinion. Another one is Tracy Enim who won the Turner Prize for displaying her unmade bed complete with used condom. I don't care if intellecuals rave about it, to me it is still a dirty, unmade bed.
"You can be young without money but you can't be old without money"
Maggie the Cat from "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof." by Tennessee Williams
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matty7 Wrote:I hate criticizing as I love your posts but I always think these kinds of pictures can be done with by a 5 year old at school.. I remember there was a similar picture of a house in similar paint style and it went for a few hundred grand at auction - a news tv station got a class of children to draw the exact same picture and the put them all up on a board and asked experts to pic the expensive one out and they all failed - art is deffo in the eye of the beholder I believe

LONDONER Wrote:Don't worry about critisising me [MENTION=19211]Matt[/MENTION]y, I can take it and I don't claim to be infallible.

Some, I agree with you but definitey not all. What about my avatar for instance? Also, it is the original idea that is important, the original act of creation. Asking schoolchildren to make a copy is not creative. I will agree with you that some even well known "painters" who are worth millions, are absolute rubbish. Damien Hirst for instance. He just employs a lot of people to work out his ideas for him. That is definitely not art in my opinion. Another one is Tracy Enim who won the Turner Prize for displaying her unmade bed complete with used condom. I don't care if intellecuals rave about it, to me it is still a dirty, unmade bed.
[MENTION=18997]matty7[/MENTION]: It begs the question, "what is art?" All meaning is in the brain of the one who perceives the meaning. It is not external to ourselves. Even if the meaning is agreed upon collectively, it remains in the brains of those who perceive and agree upon that meaning.
[MENTION=18457]LONDONER[/MENTION]: How is it that if someone employs others to execute a concept, that executed concept is 'not art'? "Conceptual" is an umbrella art movement that has its roots in dada: That is, art that is intentionally and systematically juxtaposed to the elitist burgeois aesthetic. The irony, of course, being that such anti-art, in turn, becomes accepted and collected by the elite art establishment. It IS actually a kind of joke: Cf., for example, Marcel Duchamp's "Fountain," (1917) signed "R.MUTT".

So far as monetary value is concerned: All monetary systems are based on "perceived value". Take this:

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for example. The paper and ink are certainly not worth one million pounds, yet that is its perceived value.

A FEW WORDS ABOUT "ABSTRACTION"

All paintings are abstract in the sense that no representational painting IS the thing it represents:

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In fact, it could be argued that many paintings commonly labeled "abstract" are in fact realistic because they represent nothing other than themselves.

To give you an idea of where I'm coming from as a painter THIS LINK should take you to an archived set of paintings I've executed over the years that are currently in private, corporate and museum collections.
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I forgot to say the art itself is pretty good but not a style what draws me in personally - but I find that once someone puts a price on something then every Muppet in the world suddenly agrees whether its a piece of crap or a pile of bricks (and that's actually true about the bricks ) the more money than sense brigade ruin it for me - I personally believe the abstract art brigade is in business just to rip off rich brainless fools , good luck to em though
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LONDONER Wrote:Thanks [MENTION=23097]Insertnamehere[/MENTION]. We have to accept that people have different tatstes and that abstractionism is not to everyone's taste. I'm of the opinion that in many cases realism has no point since the age of photography with the exception perhaps of portraiture that can add another dimension that a camera can't caprure in spite of Photoshop. I can see that that statement might open a whole can of worms!

Yeah that's the thing about art. I don't get why people say there is good or bad art. It really depends on a personal appreciation.

If one thing can be said about those painting is that either positive or negative, they are causing reactions from people. That is very telling.
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MikeW Wrote:To give you an idea of where I'm coming from as a painter THIS LINK should take you to an archived set of paintings I've executed over the years that are currently in private, corporate and museum collections.

Stack is my favorite. Those are beautiful, I'm very humbled by you now.
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Emiliano Wrote:Stack is my favorite. Those are beautiful, I'm very humbled by you now.
Thanks. But I'd much rather you were inspired than humbled.
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MikeW Wrote:Thanks. But I'd much rather you were inspired than humbled.

Yeah but abstract expressionist paintings on ms paint just aren't the same.
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