Leaders scramble to save crumbling EU

[NativeSon]

https://www.rt.com/news/378678-lawmakers...of-europe/

[meridannight]

I for one agree that the EU should be a federal union. European states are not strong enough on their own to face the challenges of the global era we're living in, and that Europe is aspiring to. We do need a stronger central authority applying to EU as a whole.

I also agree that we have to increase our defense spending. So, Trump is not unreasonable about that. That is actually something that Europe needs to get real about. We had some nice peaceful times, but that is not the reality of the world we live in. Unfortunately. Unless we want to be gobbled up by various powers of the world, we need to increase our security spending.

[NativeSon]

I for one agree that the EU should be a federal union. European states are not strong enough on their own to face the challenges of the global era we're living in, and that Europe is aspiring to. We do need a stronger central authority applying to EU as a whole.

Surprising response.

At the cost of less sovereignty for member states? You strike me as someone who would generally oppose. What has changed? Or am I just very wrong about you?

[meridannight]

Surprising response.

At the cost of less sovereignty for member states? You strike me as someone who would generally oppose. What has changed? Or am I just very wrong about you?

Really? You think that's surprising? I have always been pro-EU. I think I have made that rather clear.

Most European countries share the same heritage to a greater or lesser degree, that there really is no difference anymore whether you're Italian, French, German, or Spanish, Greek or Danish. Greater variations exist between south and the north, but for all intents and purposes we are the same people.

[TigerLover]

Honestly I'm torn on the EU. I guess you could say that I want an EU but not this EU.

The Germany and friends show has run the EU into the ground with reckless expansionism and high handed dictatorial policy making. I had hoped the UK would recommit to Europe and bring some balance to the European Parliament but Brexit has scuppered those hopes.

We need European unity for security, Science and frankly for our continued prosperity in the face of Chinese competition. Yet all signs point towards the EU collapsing. Perhaps after the rubble of the EU has cleared someone will start a European federation.

[NativeSon]

Really? You think that's surprising? I have always been pro-EU. I think I have made that rather clear.

Well, I was a little surprised. I guess I just assumed incorrectly. But I do agree that unifcation makes perfect sense.

[NativeSon]

The Germany and friends show has run the EU into the ground with reckless expansionism and high handed dictatorial policy making. I had hoped the UK would recommit to Europe and bring some balance to the European Parliament but Brexit has scuppered those hopes.

Seems a common complaint.

We need European unity for security, Science and frankly for our continued prosperity in the face of Chinese competition. Yet all signs point towards the EU collapsing. Perhaps after the rubble of the EU has cleared someone will start a European federation.

I suggest you get on that sooner rather than later.

[meridannight]

We need European unity for security, Science and frankly for our continued prosperity in the face of Chinese competition. Yet all signs point towards the EU collapsing. Perhaps after the rubble of the EU has cleared someone will start a European federation.

That time is now. Not on some fictional imaginary future date. ''Someone'' will start a federation after this one? You do realize how ridiculous it is to propose something like that? Let's do nothing and just watch as EU gets destroyed and hope on some magical date in the future there will be another?? Really? That's your idea? You might as well throw in a prayer there as well, it'll be just as useful.

This is it. EU needs to pull itself together and become strong enough to face challenges like this. If it dies, it will be fractionated and swallowed up by other world powers -- directly or indirectly -- and will cease to have an influence on the world arena.