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Christians and the Bible
#11
marshlander Wrote:Really? God is not credited with writing any of the 66 books of the Bible. People wrote them. People told the stories. People made the laws. People translated the translations. People decide which of the laws they keep and which of the stories they believe. People run the organised churches that tell believers what to believe. God only comes into it when people need an authority figure to frighten other people into doing as they're told. People create their gods to suit their needs.
GREAT marshlander I'll add an Amen!
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#12
fudger Wrote:Sorry marshlander my line "after all it is gods word" was supposed to be ironic.Confusedmile:
Apologies for going off on one then. Just so we're clear Wink Xyxthumbs

yar Wrote:GREAT marshlander I'll add an Amen!
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#13
fudger Wrote:I personally believe that you either follow a religion as it is written or not at all. after all it is Gods word

You think that God has said all he has to say for all time? He doesn't have anything to say to us as individuals?
Fred

Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans.
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#14
im pretty sure i know like all marks gospel cuz of gcse religion and most of lukes from a level but other than that just some OT stories!!! thats about it and then i know some philosophy which is by far the best!!!
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#15
I know some stuff about the book:
-The eden, adan, eve and the snake
-Cain and abel
-sodoma and gomorra
-egypt and the plagues
-noe boat or whatever it is called
-jesus was killed under pilatos orders

I think the bible is more like a novel, someone occur the story and write it and the wills of the apostols are like fan fiction, like the novels of today like harry potter, lord of the rings, twlight, narnia, etc that appart of the autor version, there is several other fan made versions.
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#16
Im not religious at all. Im not big into marriage or any of that. To me marriage would be commitment and not something religious - and that is just my point of views. I am a hypocrite by celebrating christmas I guess - But I admit I don't do it for the religious side but sadly the commercial market that has become christmas.

But yeh I don't have a definite belief or view that there is a god or not. As for afterlife.. Im not really sure what happens. I hope there is more?
[COLOR="Purple"]As I grow to understand less and less,
I learn to love it more and more.
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#17
THIS IS MY VIEWS I AM NOT TRYING TO START A FIGHT AND EVERYONE TO THEIR OWN.

I think the bible is a book the church invented to control the masses.... I not sure if i beleive in god anymore as i have seen to many good people die in my line of work. I celebrate christmas in the defenition that santa is comming for the kids and its a time of year that my family gets together gives presents and cooks big meals and enjoys 2 weeks of work. And besides as far as i am led to beleive the 25th has no religious meaning as jesus wasnt really born on that date???

Anyways thats my views, not trying to start a fight with anyone or diss your beliefs, i used to beleive in god and i prayed as a kid. But now......well nows a different story........
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#18
albabonzai Wrote:i have seen to many good people die in my line of work.

Trust me, even the bad ones die eventually.

albabonzai Wrote:And besides as far as i am led to beleive the 25th has no religious meaning as jesus wasnt really born on that date???

We the Bible records that Jesus was born during the Census of Palestine during the reign of Julius Caesar (hence his unconventional place of birth). History records which in which year of Julius's reign that took place (a year that we know as 1 AD, however due to an error my actually be 5 BC) but not what time of year. 25th December or thereabout was a winter festival in much of pagan Europe so the Early missionaries hijacked it to be a festival of the birth of Christ, given that no-one knows when Christmas 'ought' be celebrated I think it is a bit harsh to say it has no religious meaning.
Fred

Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans.
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#19
fredv3b Wrote:We the Bible records that Jesus was born during the Census of Palestine during the reign of Julius Caesar (hence his unconventional place of birth). History records which in which year of Julius's reign that took place (a year that we know as 1 AD, however due to an error my actually be 5 BC) but not what time of year. 25th December or thereabout was a winter festival in much of pagan Europe so the Early missionaries hijacked it to be a festival of the birth of Christ, given that no-one knows when Christmas 'ought' be celebrated I think it is a bit harsh to say it has no religious meaning.

There seems to be an error in there (I don't know if you made an error Fred, or if its the Bible).

Julius Caesar was not alive in the year 5 BC, and certainly not in the year 1 AD. He was assissinated in 44 BC. I think you (or the Bible) mean Augustus (or Octavius before he changed it) Caesar. Sorry if I'm being nitpicky, but my history senses were tingling.
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#20
-Really has no religious knowledge
[COLOR="Purple"]As I grow to understand less and less,
I learn to love it more and more.
[/COLOR]
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