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I don’t believe in god, but that largely stems from my Japanese upbringing.
We are not totally aethiest, but definitely not very religious…maybe more superstitious.
So if believing in some sort of supernatural being (that makes the superstitions work), then I do believe in that. But definitely not one almighty god that rules the world.
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SadSilence Wrote:Wars, injustice, and all that is our punishment. God told Eve not to eat from the apple tree in the garden of Eden but Satan convinced Eve to do so. She went against God, an as a result of that God saw it fit to punish us with hatred, war, disease, and all that is bad. We are God's children, and he loves each and everyone of us. But what is love without punishment and consequences for our bad deeds. It's our own doing for the bad in the world, it's our rightful punishment for going against God. I know that's not what the bible says but that's always been my take on it. You can't prove belief, that's why it's called belief.
"To one with faith no explanation is necessary, to one without faith no explanation is possible"
You don't find it petulant and immature for an "all powerful" being to hold a grudge against an entire race for something one human did thousands of years ago?
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Hello All,
I personally gave up my belief in god and gave up all the rights to religion when i discovered spiritualism.. I dont practice it in anyway shape or form however i dont condone those that do. I think in life it is good to believe in something which gives an indivudual hope after death. I personally like to believe that when we die we are put into a spiritual form which takes us into a world that is based upon our memories and explains to me why ghosts are able to so called walk through walls because in their lifetime they are possibly walking through what they construde as a doorway whereas to us it is a wall. I gave up my religion when i was about 12 because that was when i began learning about my religion and i used to go with a friend of mine to a church and the fella behind the stand started to preach about how it is wrong to be gay and how it is only acceptable if you fit into this certain criteria. I didnt want to be labelled as a criteria and wanted to be a indivudual recognised in society for achieveing what ive achieved in life.. I watched both my great grandparents die in a hospital bed.. My great grandfather who died aged 92 about four years ago i watched as he peacefully went taking his last breathes and he was talking about people he could see who we couldnt.. My great grandmother was the most emotional one as i ended up breaking a promise which i didnt want to break.. As she laid there mumbling something loosing the plot slightly or so we thought i remember turning up at the hospital and telling her that ive had a good day and everything has gone great... I remember telling her in her hospital bed that I have found a flat and I am looking to move in as soon as possible and hope that everything goes well and before i left for some reason her lasts words to me were... "Go get them" when i told her i am not going to miss out on this flat as i want it badly.. As i began to break down and try to hide my emotion from her and hide the pain of it all i ended up saying right grandma im off now as gotta get some rest for work tomorrow.. I told her id promise to be in on sunday and as i left she waved goodbye for the last time... She knew her time was fast approaching and so did I as she mentioned people who were around her who I didnt see. It upset me massively because I didnt want to loose her and aged 25 Id only lost my great granddad and was proud to have this whole 5 generation family... I had just left and drifted off to sleep upon getting home when my phone rang and my nan told me she had died... Despite endless tears i found comfort in knowing that her loved ones who she knew as a girl where standing beside her to help her across the bridge and I hope that when my time comes and im lying in a bed taking my last breath that my family will be there waiting for me to come across and see them as I intend to do with my loved ones...
I know when i was looking at properties to buy I spoke with a medium at a fayre and he called through a spirit of my fathers side who i never knew who told me i wont get a place im hoping for if it is a programmed scheme... I know at some point again I shall endure the whole mediumship again because I see it as one big telephone to the world I cant call and its a way of getting in touch with people who i love.. I find this spiritualism more comforting than thinking... I have done wrong in my life for condoning the bible and therefore its me whos going to hell for being this that and the other... If we went back 500 years ago you would find that the UK was a prodominant christian country and church was something that was done religiously ervery sunday without fail however in todays society that has all changed and now it is a multi faith kind of country... Some parts like where my boyfriend grew up in the last ten years its been a case of spot the white person but as long as its not forced down my throat i dont have a problem... I know last time it was was when some jehova witnesses came to the door and asked if they could invite god into my home and I asked them for some ID from god which they failed to show so i said yes as long as i can talk about homosexuality and invite you into my world.... They soon buggered off lol
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Nah I'm not one for god or the bible. If I can't see it or feel it I can't believe it. People my age in the area I live don't tend to be very religious, most are baptised but never go to church. The only way I will set foot in a church is either if the is a wedding or a funeral I don't go to any services. I just have a hard time believing that's all, Alton I respect others views in beleiving in god I just think its a waste of time. He's never answered any of my prayers and by believing this hasn't made any significant impact in my life so I choose not to believe.
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SadSilence Wrote:Wars, injustice, and all that is our punishment. God told Eve not to eat from the apple tree in the garden of Eden but Satan convinced Eve to do so. She went against God, an as a result of that God saw it fit to punish us with hatred, war, disease, and all that is bad. We are God's children, and he loves each and everyone of us. But what is love without punishment and consequences for our bad deeds. It's our own doing for the bad in the world, it's our rightful punishment for going against God. I know that's not what the bible says but that's always been my take on it. You can't prove belief, that's why it's called belief.
"To one with faith no explanation is necessary, to one without faith no explanation is possible"
I'm not a religious person but I fully respect your beliefs and you write beautifully. Nice post, smart young man
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there are thousands of religions and millions of gods. Each calming to be the one true. I could invent a religion or find a used one and follow its teachings but rather i might go and live a life with the least regrets.
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I believe in GOD.
but have grudges against him.
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Nick9 Wrote:I don't. But I was told Czechs were the most atheistic nation in the world, so I guess, it's not much of a surprise.
To tell the truth I don't understand how people like you, Bowyn Aerrow, can find soothing the idea that God exists.
I can accept the idea of him having his own plans (when people try to explain why there are wars and injustice etc in the world), but why are they happy to go back to him after their death, when he didn't care for their safety and rights when they were still alive... I just don't get it.
I read somewhere that its Sweden and Czech republic that is at the top, and then the rest of Scandinavia
For me, I was once a Cristian, not the best but still. But there was nothing that made sense for me, I've prayed everyday for days to get better but it only felt like the more I prayed the worse it get. As for why would we be punished for what Eve did? How is her sin relevant to us? As it made us smarter but only cause of that does billion souls have to be tormented?
But also I think that if there is a god who demands to be prayed to, its more likely to be the anti-christ. Why would god have to be prayed to? If he really created us, wouldn't he understand us as we are his creation? As god is everywhere and everything so to me it only seem egoistic to create a specimen with the only purpose is to pray to your self. A god of love and harmony wouldn't need it, only what he would want is the same love that he gives us, for us to share with the rest, to make this planet a work of art as it was meant to be. Religion is love, not worship... But also if we are gods children, what is so special about Jesus? I don't believe the legends about him, but I do believe he was a prophet of unconditional love.
Thats atleast how I think about it mile:
Sometimes you need a bit of chaos in your life to be able to shrug off pitiful disdain about something meaningless.
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I don't believe in any particular religion anymore. I identify as Agnostic now, meaning I believe there's something more to our existence than just random evolutionary luck, but I don't believe that anyone really knows what it is until we die. So until then, I just try and live like a good person and hope it all works out.
And by good person, I mean how I was raised to interprete good, along with my own additions or subtractions. I think religions have plenty of good traits to teach your kids, but there's some barbaric or ignorant ways of thinking that should be dropped too. That's gonna be preferential though, not everyone will agree what's good and what's not.
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