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Lying to Get Laid?
#1
I'm asking for insight into people who do this on a regular basis, and specifically to lying about wanting to be in a relationship just to get laid. This can include someone who is in a committed relationship who seduces others with lies of being after a real relationship, but does not include serial monogamists, patronizing prostitutes, what are unusual circumstances (such as an ex coming back and seducing you into cheating or seeking solace in someone else after say 10 years of being in a relationship after the passion has died down and you've grown distant from your partner), nor simply getting laid in a way that's cheating to a partner but not deceiving those hooked up with (he may not mention he's in a relationship but doesn't deceive anyone else that he's looking for a "special someone" to be in a relationship with, it's just sex and then gone and both sides know it so that it's essentially just "live action porn" to both the cheater doing it and those hooked up with--I'm assuming that this type of cheating is essentially a variant of porn addiction).

Lying about job, physical features, health, and the like also don't count for this. Nor am I asking about cheating in general, but rather the people who regularly engage in deceiving people about wanting a relationship when one just wants to get laid.

This baffles me as if all one wants is sex then that lifestyle should be easy to live up to without needing to play with people's heads (and hearts) to get it. And yet going by threads I've seen on GS over the years (in addition to other sources) it seems that this is distressingly common. Is there pleasure in the trickery? The allure of forbidden fruit, wanting what you can't have (that is if you're honest then it will be denied to you and that vexes you so)? Is it that such a player has "gotta screw them all (at least if they're cute/fine)" and that inevitably means he has to deceive some? Getting into competition with other players and not wanting to be seen as "less a man" than others in the game by having too low a score/conquests? Or could it be that such deception adds to drama and it's the drama (and/or risk taking) that's desired as much as the sex? Could it even be the general culture? Is it that such a deceiver actually feels self-conscious about just wanting sex so is actually more concerned with being perceived as "shallow" rather than as a liar and heart breaker? :confused:

I expect that the reasons vary by the individual but I'd like to hear about insights into it from personal experience, whether experienced with such people and/or being one or having had been one when younger. (Talking about straight men and also female players doing this is also okay though I'm mainly interested on why people would do this when I get the impression their life would be easier if they simply were honest about wanting sex and not a relationship.) And I genuinely want to understand this.

Note that anonymous replies are available here (if you have 50 posts already) and I'd accept PM which I'd keep confidential (though I might one day share insights gained from them I'd never out the person discussed about or who brought it up or describe the specific details shared, that would always be anonymous).
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#2
I know guys who do this, mostly straight guys. I really haven't tried to understand why they do it. I get pissed when they think it's something worth bragging about having done.

Besides that I'm not going to be much help to you.
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#3
It's pretty common in my neck of the woods.

I have met guys online (2) that had profiles that stated they were single ..

Found out later one was in a long distance relationship. .
One was in an open relationship...

I'm still friends with both.. there is no sex.. so I am not exactly a priority anymore. .

The other side of it ..

The 'DL"/ 'Discreet ' movement here is huge..
Some are married.. Bi.. closeted and some are powerful gay men that just prefer to keep their sexual activities discreet..

Either way ..I avoid it..
Personally. .I have worked way to hard to simplify my sexuality ..
I avoid people and circumstances that seem complex..

^^^^^^
Some men taget you
and they peruse you at any cost. .
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#4
LOL...this is one thing I never did...but because of that..I do have some insight as to why people do this.....

Alot of people hold themselves up to some kind of "purity index"...especially when it comes to sex....they don't want to be one of "THOSE PEOPLE" ....Pssst....I am one of "THOSE PEOPLE" Rofl

You can see it all the time...they never want to have sex with someone unless it "means something"...

DUDE...it means you just had a great orgasm..now get the fuck over it and take off the Virgin Mary Robe...

With the "this must mean something...I am looking for a relationship" crap...uh...you are leaving yourself open to liars who YOU have pretty much instructed what lie to tell you...so they are gonna say what you want to hear....(and someone..PLEASE explain to me why no one gets that????)

I told people I was never looking for a relationship...trying to avoid one is more like it...I wanted to get laid..not married....and I was vocal about it....and now look...ironically...I have what so many people claim to want...and I got it by fucking over 750 men with zero apologies or excuses...imagine that....I didn't even have to pretend to be pure...

Even worse...shudders...I told my BF all of this the first week I met him. I love hanging out my dirty laundry first...people should know who they are falling in love with IMO

Generations of women have been fucked up by this purity index...which is why rape is the #1 fantasy of American Women for generations. It is no mystery..being FORCED to have sex gives them permission....UGH....

So....people like me are an example for the moral purists of "what could go wrong with a person". I fucked between 750-1000 guys..strangers when I met them. I loved it..well..most of it...a handful I wish I hadn't done. I also was blunt and let them know I just wanted to fuck them and there would be no dating or other scenarios where I had to pretend anything...

...and yeah...these were pretty much my exact words....

I would tell them we could go on a date AFTER we fucked because I am not even sure I like them well enough to share a meal....

Just from what I wrote above...I will always be judged as morally corrupt by the purists...and most other people...but in my mind..I am morally superior...because I didn't lie to get laid..nor lie about what it meant....and I am being judged by people who DO lie..about everything..lie to themselves...lie to everyone else....

...and they can't even imagine why I feel like I have taken the high road...because we all know lust and meaningless sex is B A D BAD B A D BAD...because the Bible told us so.

...and so people lie to get laid to uphold a lie they tell themselves..about themselves...to themselves..and to others...about who they are. They are concerned about their image and how they appear to be....

I am no stranger to lying...about other stuff...and I did a good job...but what saved me..I knew I was lying....and I knew why I was lying. I never really tried to convince myself that my lies were anything but what they were....

...and for some reason....people want to belong to the bullshit club. There used to be alot more of "my kind"...and most of us died...but at least before so many of us died...we actually L I V E D.

***rant over***
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#5
750- 1000 guys?
Wow!!
Do your knees still work?
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#6
Anocxu Wrote:750- 1000 guys?
Wow!!
Do your knees still work?

Of course..I was never on them....

I don't suck dick..there were a few other things I did on my knees though...but never for any length of time Rofl
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#7
East Wrote:Of course..I was never on them....

I don't suck dick..there were a few other things I did on my knees though...but never for any length of time Rofl
Wow !!East...
Gayspeak's retired playboy. .
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#8
I've never actually tried to pick up a man for casual sex. But I've gone out with plenty of straight guys to pick up girls.

When trying to hook up with chicks it can be 'necessary' to. Because unless you look really good picking up a sober woman can be really hard. To quote Chris Rock "dick is cheap and pussy is expensive".

Lying is almost an established tradition. There can sometimes be an element of "I know you know that I know you're lying". Girls don't go to nightclubs to find Mr Right.

Maybe that attitude has been transferred to the gay community by straight friends?

Or it could be a sensation i'm very familiar with.

"That one! look at her, she's so sexy and that dress and those lips. ohhh I want that one! i'll do what ever it takes to get her in bed."

To be clear. I've never actually lied to a girl like that I find it kind of pathetic. But the temptation to lie is definitely there. If a girl rejects me when i'm being playful I just have to man up and rein in my own hormones.
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#9
haven't done it. don't need to do it in order to get laid.
''Do I look civilized to you?''
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#10
As a woman, I can say it smacks of desperation and I can smell it a mile away. And totally not necessary. But I am also someone who cannot stand dishonesty. There is nothing sexier to me than someone who is not afraid to share with me *all* of who they are. I'm not looking for these situations now, but when I was, whether it was "looking for Mr Right" or just a casual fling, if you lied to me I wouldn't have given you a second glance.
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