With the exit of Donald Skunk (providing he does actually leave the White House), will it mean the end of governing by Twitter?

(11-13-2020, 01:57 PM)LONDONER Wrote: With the exit of Donald Skunk (providing he does actually leave the White House), will it mean the end of governing by Twitter?

I don't think any politician should use social media in the manner that Trump does. That's not to say they can't use social media.

(11-13-2020, 03:23 AM)CellarDweller Wrote: Supposedly there is going to be a "mass exodus" of Conservative/Trumper/Right-Wingers (take your pick) from Facebook to MeWe, and from Twitter to Parler.

Yeah I heard about Paler and you what they do have a community jury where they can remove your posts. What most people don't understand is that platforms like Facebook, Twitter even GaySpeak are not covered under the 1st amendment. I can't speak to other countries and how their laws concerning free speech apply to posting on a website but the point I'm making is that they can remove content you post as it applies to their terms of service and there's not much you can do to stop it. In the case of YouTube, if advertisers don't like that their ads are being put on with certain videos they can pull their ads from YouTube. That means YouTube starts censoring creators by demonetizing them.

This brings up two big concerns of mine. One is why the hell do corporations have influence on what content I consume? Which brings me to....did anyone see or heard about these ads being shown in Massachusetts before the election? commercial starts at 1:00



The second concern is where does free speech end and we get into the realm of something else? Should networks like OANN and talking heads like Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and so on be allowed to lie to the public which I think we can say this is done nothing good for the country when your objective is to spread misinformation that leads or fuels civil unrest.

I think it will be a while before any of this gets better, especially now with trump supports fighting in the streets with counter protestors. Apparently they applauded the president as he rode by on his way to his golf club in VA. I went to the grocery store today and saw what looked like a donation both set up.. for the Hells Angels. I didn't even want to know what they were up to, one of them said hello to me I said hi back and kept walking into the store, I didn't even want to make I contact. I wonder if any one has ever told a trump supporter that he was a liberal up until he decided to run for president?

@ceez Trump is definitely not liberal. He may have said various things on TV because it suited him at the time. But yeah, a donation booth for Hell's Angels and I'm sure they got donations. I really think we can blame social media, sound absurd at first but think about how we use it and how platforms take advantage of human psychology...It's not always used for bad and don't get me wrong there's a lot of good things about social media but I feel like it is too easy for groups that favor things like neo-nazi's, KKK...Hell's Angels you name it. People are believing and supporting things that they never imagined supporting...because they don't realize what they're supporting.

Here's Trump getting sued for racial discrimination... https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/495955920...ation-case

Another hurdle is taken. The transition can begin officially. Yay.

Thank God

Trump  seems to think that the stock market reaching 30,000 is due to him.  It hasn't seemingly occured to him that it reached 30,000 because Joe Biden won the election!

that's because he's a moron.

(11-25-2020, 02:17 PM)LONDONER Wrote: Trump  seems to think that the stock market reaching 30,000 is due to him.  It hasn't seemingly occured to him that it reached 30,000 because Joe Biden won the election!

It also hasn't occurred to Trump that most working Americans don't have a stake in the stock market. Most Americans don't even have $1,000 in savings ready for a rainy day fund.

Joe Biden's proposed tax plan is rather high and progressive, calling for an increase in both short-term and long-term capital gains taxes. This could in theory cause a lot of investors to rush out, causing it to fall, in preparation for the tax hike, however most people who know finance know this isn't necessary. In reality, it's common for rich people to take out a line of credit with their stock as collateral. That way there, your stock continues to grow, you don't pay taxes from selling it, and as long you reinvest that line of credit in something that has a higher rate of return than the rate the bank gave you, you will continue to grow your net worth while minimizing taxes.

Biden's plan, however, is unlikely to get passed as it is proposed right now, given how Republicans are likely to hold onto the Senate. Like the tax plan Trump ran on (I think he claimed he wanted anyone who makes less than 50k to pay no taxes) and the healthcare reform Obama ran on in 2008 (he wanted a public option, which never came to fruition because the Democrats - yes - the Democrats - opposed it), it will likely get butchered, and we will be left with some derivative of it.