08-25-2012, 06:53 PM
There are a few verses dedicated to women submitting and obeying their husbands. Also I think there is one telling woman to keep her pie hole shut or someday, Pow - to the Moon.
In context the idea of 'submission' to your husband takes a different stance.
Ephesians: 5:21-32
21 and be subject to one another in the fear of Christ.
22 Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.
24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her;
26 that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
27 that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she should be holy and blameless.
28 So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself;
29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church,
30 because we are members of His body.
31 For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh.
32 This mystery is great; but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the church.
33 Nevertheless let each individual among you also love his own wife even as himself; and let the wife see to it that she respect her husband.
There are various translations which use different words, I choose a translation here where 'subject' is used in place of 'submit' so you may read it all and get a better idea of the relationship that the bible is trying to enforce without the biased sound of 'submit'.
New International Version (NIV) the word is submit: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=NIV
King James Version (KJV) the word is submit: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=KJV
There are many translations, please do go through the list and see how the wording changes at the link(s).
If you read it in context it becomes clear that the responsibilities of man and wife are much more than woman just bowing down to hubby.
While woman is charged to submit to the husband, the husband is charged with the duty of protecting and providing for the wife and loving his wife as his own self.
The only problem with changing the text of the wedding vows to reflect this notion in some part, is that most laity have no idea what the whole 'submit to thy husband' notion is about. Few understand that the husbands works is greater than the wives and yes many will twist it and turn it into meaning woman is slave.
The real issue here is that the Anglican Church has made the grave error of thinking that the common man of this 'enlightened' Century is more intelligent, more knowledgeable and thus more able to comprehend the subtle differences.
In context the idea of 'submission' to your husband takes a different stance.
Ephesians: 5:21-32
21 and be subject to one another in the fear of Christ.
22 Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.
24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her;
26 that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
27 that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she should be holy and blameless.
28 So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself;
29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church,
30 because we are members of His body.
31 For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh.
32 This mystery is great; but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the church.
33 Nevertheless let each individual among you also love his own wife even as himself; and let the wife see to it that she respect her husband.
There are various translations which use different words, I choose a translation here where 'subject' is used in place of 'submit' so you may read it all and get a better idea of the relationship that the bible is trying to enforce without the biased sound of 'submit'.
New International Version (NIV) the word is submit: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=NIV
King James Version (KJV) the word is submit: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=KJV
There are many translations, please do go through the list and see how the wording changes at the link(s).
If you read it in context it becomes clear that the responsibilities of man and wife are much more than woman just bowing down to hubby.
While woman is charged to submit to the husband, the husband is charged with the duty of protecting and providing for the wife and loving his wife as his own self.
The only problem with changing the text of the wedding vows to reflect this notion in some part, is that most laity have no idea what the whole 'submit to thy husband' notion is about. Few understand that the husbands works is greater than the wives and yes many will twist it and turn it into meaning woman is slave.
The real issue here is that the Anglican Church has made the grave error of thinking that the common man of this 'enlightened' Century is more intelligent, more knowledgeable and thus more able to comprehend the subtle differences.