08-25-2012, 11:07 PM
I only uses the feminine pronouns because that is what the OP is discussing. Dominant and submissive can apply to any gender and sexuality and, yes what Bowyn posted is the ideal Judeo-Christian marriage and not a bad model for any marriage, but few people actually understand what it really means to be a Dominant or submissive in a relationship. When those involved don't understand it beyond thinking Dominant means the boss or controller and submissive means the one the obeys and gives in, it leads to abuse.
That might be neglect of the sub's needs, disregard for her comfort level with things, verbal abuse, psychological abuse and/or physical abuse but, all of it damages the submissive. Here is an except from a chat I had with a damaged sub, shared with his permission (no he was never my sub). RainbowMaster is me and, I changed his screenname.
RainbowMaster: So, have you told this prospective Dom what your limits are?
BrokenSub: Sir, this boy has no limits. This boy's master will tell this boy what his limits are.
RainbowMaster: You like everything a Dom might do?
BrokenSub: This boy does not like some thing. Some things make this boy hurt for days. This boy wishes his master would not [explicit activity removed].
RainbowMaster: Then you need to tell this prospective Dom you don't want to [explicit activity removed].
BrokenSub: No Sir, this boy must do what Master wants. This boy is not permitted to dislike anything.
RainbowMaster: I assume your old Master taught you that?
BrokenSub: Yes Sir, Master taught this boy that he has no will or mind of his own. This boy's mind, will and body belong only to his Master and, Master may do whatever Master wants with what he owns.
RainbowMaster: So, you think it's okay if your Master breaks your bones, or worse?
BrokenSub: Yes Sir, if it pleases Master, this boy will be broken. If it pleased Master this boy will be killed.
Yes, this sub was in need of serious mental help, and I did meet him in person and convince him to check in to a one week emergency intervention program, which I paid for and, he's marginally better now and, working with an outpatient therapist and, I'm happy to say, not in a relationship.
That's extreme but, I've seen it too many times in both men and women. Imagine a wife degraded, demeaned, beaten and brainwashed to that point outside of BDSM where no one even had a chance of recognizing what had happened to them and, no one would be there to offer the much needed help. Scary, and that is what this opens the door very wide to happening.
That might be neglect of the sub's needs, disregard for her comfort level with things, verbal abuse, psychological abuse and/or physical abuse but, all of it damages the submissive. Here is an except from a chat I had with a damaged sub, shared with his permission (no he was never my sub). RainbowMaster is me and, I changed his screenname.
RainbowMaster: So, have you told this prospective Dom what your limits are?
BrokenSub: Sir, this boy has no limits. This boy's master will tell this boy what his limits are.
RainbowMaster: You like everything a Dom might do?
BrokenSub: This boy does not like some thing. Some things make this boy hurt for days. This boy wishes his master would not [explicit activity removed].
RainbowMaster: Then you need to tell this prospective Dom you don't want to [explicit activity removed].
BrokenSub: No Sir, this boy must do what Master wants. This boy is not permitted to dislike anything.
RainbowMaster: I assume your old Master taught you that?
BrokenSub: Yes Sir, Master taught this boy that he has no will or mind of his own. This boy's mind, will and body belong only to his Master and, Master may do whatever Master wants with what he owns.
RainbowMaster: So, you think it's okay if your Master breaks your bones, or worse?
BrokenSub: Yes Sir, if it pleases Master, this boy will be broken. If it pleased Master this boy will be killed.
Yes, this sub was in need of serious mental help, and I did meet him in person and convince him to check in to a one week emergency intervention program, which I paid for and, he's marginally better now and, working with an outpatient therapist and, I'm happy to say, not in a relationship.
That's extreme but, I've seen it too many times in both men and women. Imagine a wife degraded, demeaned, beaten and brainwashed to that point outside of BDSM where no one even had a chance of recognizing what had happened to them and, no one would be there to offer the much needed help. Scary, and that is what this opens the door very wide to happening.