10-28-2007, 11:01 PM
Hey Spotysocks.....
From all over the place. I used to have a great website from a professor of theology for ages on my favorites list....which is of course not there anymore...ggrrrrr.
But try Wikopedia and enter religion and homosexuality...or play with google a bit and try some cross references. It's amazing how much disinformation people actually get and repeat...especialy if it suits their needs.
I read on the web a few weeks ago about the different interpretations on "gay" passages in the bible. VERY interesting reading. The one that most people repeat as God being against gays is the passage in Leviticus that goes something like, THEY say, man shall not lay with another man.
What it actually says in the original is that: man shall not lay with another man as in the trappings of a woman. So Hebrew scholars have been arguing for two thousand years exactly what that means.
It could mean man shall never lay with another man.....but why not just say this directly if that's what go meant? He was very clear about forbiding all kinds of things and being right to the point.
It might mean man shall not have sex with another man in a womans bed. Back then that was a huge taboo. Man on man action had been pretty common in Egypt but the Jews had views about a womans bed.
It could also mean you shouldn't be a bottom. Bottoming would be too much like being a woman which no man of those times would ever want to be. Women were worse than pets or slaves....or maybe not much better if they were really lucky.
There was one other that I can't remember. the thing is, almost all of the rules about same sex situations were not total bans, just rules for some situations. Never does it say in the original NO same sex. Any newer versions that do say this are just the authors wishfull thinking.
Sadly though, people never stop to think that the bible has been rewritten hundreds of times. Usually by people who wanted a certain group of people to follow how they wanted them to think according to the morals of their day....not for when the bible was supposed to have been written.
But it gets worse. Most people who say "because the bible says" or "it says so in the bible" have never actually read it. They've been told it says this and that or their minister has said what he thinks god thinks....
And we pay the price for it :-(
From all over the place. I used to have a great website from a professor of theology for ages on my favorites list....which is of course not there anymore...ggrrrrr.
But try Wikopedia and enter religion and homosexuality...or play with google a bit and try some cross references. It's amazing how much disinformation people actually get and repeat...especialy if it suits their needs.
I read on the web a few weeks ago about the different interpretations on "gay" passages in the bible. VERY interesting reading. The one that most people repeat as God being against gays is the passage in Leviticus that goes something like, THEY say, man shall not lay with another man.
What it actually says in the original is that: man shall not lay with another man as in the trappings of a woman. So Hebrew scholars have been arguing for two thousand years exactly what that means.
It could mean man shall never lay with another man.....but why not just say this directly if that's what go meant? He was very clear about forbiding all kinds of things and being right to the point.
It might mean man shall not have sex with another man in a womans bed. Back then that was a huge taboo. Man on man action had been pretty common in Egypt but the Jews had views about a womans bed.
It could also mean you shouldn't be a bottom. Bottoming would be too much like being a woman which no man of those times would ever want to be. Women were worse than pets or slaves....or maybe not much better if they were really lucky.
There was one other that I can't remember. the thing is, almost all of the rules about same sex situations were not total bans, just rules for some situations. Never does it say in the original NO same sex. Any newer versions that do say this are just the authors wishfull thinking.
Sadly though, people never stop to think that the bible has been rewritten hundreds of times. Usually by people who wanted a certain group of people to follow how they wanted them to think according to the morals of their day....not for when the bible was supposed to have been written.
But it gets worse. Most people who say "because the bible says" or "it says so in the bible" have never actually read it. They've been told it says this and that or their minister has said what he thinks god thinks....
And we pay the price for it :-(