08-11-2020, 01:49 AM
(Edited 08-11-2020, 01:51 AM by Insertnamehere.)
^ Ok, I get this is a general opinion you are giving but you quoted me so humor me if I respond. I will, of course, only talk about what is the reality for me, living in a country outside the US.
I do in fact pay a part for everyone else's healthcare. Like I said in the post you quoted, we get a 7% retention on our wages that goes into a national healthcare fund. And given I've seldom needed healthcare since I started working, I remain a net contributor.
Again, I already do. My taxes, the one I pay from my wage bracket and especially the added value tax for everything I buy, which remains a large part of this country's tax revenue, is used to fund treatments a program (Explicit Health Guarantees, in English) that covers many chronic ailments, to build hospitals.
And you know what? I have no problem with that. Because, in this head of mine, universal access to things such education, health and pensions, should be one of the purposes behind taxation.
Where do I have a problem about my taxes being used? Funding an increasingly unnecessary military. Funding crazy high wages for government and congress officials.
It would also serve if this state institutions were not so lenient when corporations or individuals evade taxes. Or when its police force and military personnel commit millions worth of fraud.
There is much that can be done here to secure a proper tax base to fund a social safety net.
But, this is what most (obviously not all) people think here, at least as of 2020. I can't say much about the US.
Small edit: In any case, denying healthcare in the context of a pandemic, shouldn't be acceptable.
(08-11-2020, 01:16 AM)JoelR Wrote: Who will pay for everyone's insurance? Will you?
I do in fact pay a part for everyone else's healthcare. Like I said in the post you quoted, we get a 7% retention on our wages that goes into a national healthcare fund. And given I've seldom needed healthcare since I started working, I remain a net contributor.
(08-11-2020, 01:16 AM)JoelR Wrote: At the end of the day, my concern over 'healthcare for all' is the economic expense of all, which will end up rolling onto taxpaying citizens like myself.
Again, I already do. My taxes, the one I pay from my wage bracket and especially the added value tax for everything I buy, which remains a large part of this country's tax revenue, is used to fund treatments a program (Explicit Health Guarantees, in English) that covers many chronic ailments, to build hospitals.
And you know what? I have no problem with that. Because, in this head of mine, universal access to things such education, health and pensions, should be one of the purposes behind taxation.
Where do I have a problem about my taxes being used? Funding an increasingly unnecessary military. Funding crazy high wages for government and congress officials.
It would also serve if this state institutions were not so lenient when corporations or individuals evade taxes. Or when its police force and military personnel commit millions worth of fraud.
There is much that can be done here to secure a proper tax base to fund a social safety net.
But, this is what most (obviously not all) people think here, at least as of 2020. I can't say much about the US.
Small edit: In any case, denying healthcare in the context of a pandemic, shouldn't be acceptable.