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Well @"JoelR" other countries seem to handle it. Is universal healthcare perfect? No. Of course not. Neither is our healthcare system which basically is a bridge too far unless you're a millionaire. Even with insurance care is too expensive outside of a routine doctor's visit.

So your argument against universal healthcare is you think that all the sick people in the US are sick because they're fat and lazy? Really? The healthcare problem is WAY beyond eating crap and not exercising, that should be very apparent.

The problem is the insurance companies. They add so much red tape and bureaucracy to everything getting a heath issue dealt with is more expensive and takes longer, even if you follow all the rules. People with cancer spend their last days buried in paperwork, arguing with people who could give a shit less over their insurance claims. Life savings gone. House, gone. What was once a happy family. Destroyed. All because Americans have ZERO compassion for anyone else. This is very evident by what we see with the pandemic, our politics. We're a bunch of selfish twats.

If the UK can have universal healthcare, we certainly can. Just some sough estimates... The UK has about 66 million people, they spend about £150 billion a year, comes to about £2,250 per person per year. Might not be the best offering, as they still have the option to purchase health insurance as we do here, but it would prevent a lot of the problems we have. There a lot of people who don't even get basic preventative care. Until I started working I didn't have a physical until I was in 8th grade and before that I was 5 when I last seen a doctor. Until I started working for my current employer the health insurance we got was an absolute JOKE. We had a maximum annual benefit of $2,000, tell me, where in this country does a hospital stay only cost $2,000? Yeah, it's nowhere.

What about dental care? You know how many people out there that don't bother going to the dentist walking around with gum disease and abscessed teeth? You know how much improvement in overall health if everyone in the US had basic dental coverage to help reverse and prevent this sort of stuff? I'm not talking about braces and implants and whitenings and all that junk.

The only reason why healthcare only costs £2,250 per person per year in the UK and in the US the average health insurance premium is over $10,000 per year is because the rich pricks who runs these insurance companies only want to get richer. So you damn well better believe they will do anything to prevent universal care coming to the US and they will convince you that your precious tax dollars are going to be wasted on fat fucks who don't exercise and that is far far from the truth.

There is no doubt that there is a epidemic of obesity in developed nations, the US is not stranger to that. You're probably well aware that sugar consumption is way up since the 1960's...and it's no surprise that with the advance of technology in the last 120 year we do work less. So if you want the solution to the problem, take the sugar out of the food. Everything has sugar added to it and it not a shocking fact that it is a huge driver of diabetes, driver of heart disease and obesity. Furthermore, someone's size, shape, life choices shouldn't be reasons to deny them healthcare, or dignity for that matter.

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I would also reccomend on how the NHS in the UK works, as an example. I don't know how healthcare works in Chile but the insurance companies are pretty well kept out of it. It's not just getting everyone health insurance is about getting everyone healthcare. This is a very broad article about the NHS and how it compares to the US.

http://content.time.com/time/health/arti...70,00.html

Perhaps someone in the UK or in a country with universal healthcare can elaborate more on the limits and the level of care they get. I would assume they're not doing boob jobs and cosmetic plastic surgery.