10-31-2010, 06:39 AM
Anonymity is sweet!
Is this data for your thesis? It is well thought out, and you were more than careful not to generalise your observations. I like but...
You are wrong, wrong, wrong!!! AND, I have had an experience being a Lesbian, it was awesome, lol. Had to fuck with you for a minute there.
First of all, Gays are not the only minority group that has faced injustices, and where things are supposedly getting better for them. And ALL because of who they inherently are:
African Americans--Slavery
Jews--Religious Belief
Native Americans--Greed
Turks--Race
Africans--Greed, Race, and on and on it goes.
Let's look at Character, that thing that you have been watching in us gay men for over ten (10) years. What to you is character? Would you say character is essential in describing who someone is? Would you say Character is the person? Or, is character something frivolous and fleeting in someone? And, finally, is character learned? If your responses to these questions are somewhere in the realm where character is malleable and more than just a conditioned thing, then we can progress.
After years of injustice, abuse, repression, suppression, ridicule, derisions, castigations, torture etc. How would your character be? Would you be happy to be free to travel as many places as your leg can carry you? Would you tie yourself down further to appease the desires of someone else. Would you allow someone who has stolen your identity, to steal again the identity, which you have created for yourself? And, finally, do you think you would be resentful, bitter, hateful, vengeful, and PERHAPS, psychotic, or perhaps even a socio-path? Regardless if you decide to answer these rhetorical questions, You are being quite selective in your choice for whom you call rude. When you should be more generalizing. As we, all people are disrespectful, whether it is tête-à -tête or through our beautiful cyberspace. For are not we all humans and have been conditioned to our characters? How many People in this world are Religious, racist, or aloof because they were conditioned to a degree--many! You have also went broad when you said that some Gay men do not know how to be men? Really? A present male figure in little boys lives, does not, a man make! And no, 99.9% of all Gay men are NOT void of "honesty" "respect", or "fidelity". Where on this earth were you for ten years?
I have lived in Canada for four years in Montreal, Quebec, and Florida for two years, in Vero Beach, and was born an island boy. And I have noticed in both Canada, and Florida, that disrespect exists in EVERYONE, it is merely operating by a different name--DIPLOMACY!! I associated (unknowingly) with people who could not stand my guts. But, I never knew how they sincerely felt until it was pointed out to me. I was shocked, flabbergasted, and confounded. And to this day I am still hurt.
How is it possible to share a room, meal, drink with me and hate me so? I should have known that I was being covertly disrespected, because it would happen to certain people. For e.g. some random individual would stop by a table for small chat and even as they walk away, unpleasant things would be uttered about them. It floored me. And, this networking thing as well is dangerous among us human beings. People can actually embrace you, live in your house, eat your food and hate you. And you will never know until it is too late. As long as they feel you have something that can benefit them, they bury their hate, and USE, you. Complete SOCIO-PATHS!! Here, in The Bahamas, at least one will know if he is unwelcome. Additionally, I worked as a concierge, in one the major hotels here in The Bahamas, and I, have NEVER met, a more blatantly disrespectful, deceitful, and manipulative bunch of human beings in my entire life. It is the main reason I am unemployed, I simply could not tolerate the level of apathy for human worth our so called visitors brought to our shores. But, I blame us (The Bahamas) for this. We promote institutionalize slavery—but that is a different story for another day.
What I am trying to say, is disrespect, whether overt, or covert is not a GAY thing, it is a human thing, and it is getting progressively worse by the second. And, the ultimate dishonesty is when someone can sit at your table and feign care.
But, if this were the case, that Gay men were rude—exclusively? I would only understand it, and empathize with them, I would certainly not blame them. But, there is no excuse for not caring, under any circumstance, whether one is Gay or not.
Is this data for your thesis? It is well thought out, and you were more than careful not to generalise your observations. I like but...
You are wrong, wrong, wrong!!! AND, I have had an experience being a Lesbian, it was awesome, lol. Had to fuck with you for a minute there.
First of all, Gays are not the only minority group that has faced injustices, and where things are supposedly getting better for them. And ALL because of who they inherently are:
African Americans--Slavery
Jews--Religious Belief
Native Americans--Greed
Turks--Race
Africans--Greed, Race, and on and on it goes.
Let's look at Character, that thing that you have been watching in us gay men for over ten (10) years. What to you is character? Would you say character is essential in describing who someone is? Would you say Character is the person? Or, is character something frivolous and fleeting in someone? And, finally, is character learned? If your responses to these questions are somewhere in the realm where character is malleable and more than just a conditioned thing, then we can progress.
After years of injustice, abuse, repression, suppression, ridicule, derisions, castigations, torture etc. How would your character be? Would you be happy to be free to travel as many places as your leg can carry you? Would you tie yourself down further to appease the desires of someone else. Would you allow someone who has stolen your identity, to steal again the identity, which you have created for yourself? And, finally, do you think you would be resentful, bitter, hateful, vengeful, and PERHAPS, psychotic, or perhaps even a socio-path? Regardless if you decide to answer these rhetorical questions, You are being quite selective in your choice for whom you call rude. When you should be more generalizing. As we, all people are disrespectful, whether it is tête-à -tête or through our beautiful cyberspace. For are not we all humans and have been conditioned to our characters? How many People in this world are Religious, racist, or aloof because they were conditioned to a degree--many! You have also went broad when you said that some Gay men do not know how to be men? Really? A present male figure in little boys lives, does not, a man make! And no, 99.9% of all Gay men are NOT void of "honesty" "respect", or "fidelity". Where on this earth were you for ten years?
I have lived in Canada for four years in Montreal, Quebec, and Florida for two years, in Vero Beach, and was born an island boy. And I have noticed in both Canada, and Florida, that disrespect exists in EVERYONE, it is merely operating by a different name--DIPLOMACY!! I associated (unknowingly) with people who could not stand my guts. But, I never knew how they sincerely felt until it was pointed out to me. I was shocked, flabbergasted, and confounded. And to this day I am still hurt.
How is it possible to share a room, meal, drink with me and hate me so? I should have known that I was being covertly disrespected, because it would happen to certain people. For e.g. some random individual would stop by a table for small chat and even as they walk away, unpleasant things would be uttered about them. It floored me. And, this networking thing as well is dangerous among us human beings. People can actually embrace you, live in your house, eat your food and hate you. And you will never know until it is too late. As long as they feel you have something that can benefit them, they bury their hate, and USE, you. Complete SOCIO-PATHS!! Here, in The Bahamas, at least one will know if he is unwelcome. Additionally, I worked as a concierge, in one the major hotels here in The Bahamas, and I, have NEVER met, a more blatantly disrespectful, deceitful, and manipulative bunch of human beings in my entire life. It is the main reason I am unemployed, I simply could not tolerate the level of apathy for human worth our so called visitors brought to our shores. But, I blame us (The Bahamas) for this. We promote institutionalize slavery—but that is a different story for another day.
What I am trying to say, is disrespect, whether overt, or covert is not a GAY thing, it is a human thing, and it is getting progressively worse by the second. And, the ultimate dishonesty is when someone can sit at your table and feign care.
Quote:The magnitude of what straight people go through because of the internet and pornography is exacerbated by being gay.Now this is utter bullshit! Being Gay does not make one more sexually promiscuous than a heterosexual. If this is about disrespect, then truly the way Gay and heterosexuals behave sexually, is irrelevant. You want to make us out as rude, cold, heartless, and promiscuous deviants, but your thesis is flawed--very! Considering, (disrespectfully) you left the rest of the world out of your observation. Truthfully, I find it less rude to be ignored, shunned, or cut-off, than to have you "networking diplomatically", all the while hating my guts so! I prefer to give up on you and have you on your way, than to sit with you, seething under my teeth. Gay men are not solely rude, and in no observation is sexuality a factor in insolence.
But, if this were the case, that Gay men were rude—exclusively? I would only understand it, and empathize with them, I would certainly not blame them. But, there is no excuse for not caring, under any circumstance, whether one is Gay or not.
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