11-23-2011, 08:02 AM
That Bible they use has been badly mistranslated, has also been edited slightly and is missing a few verses here and there.
Then the way that they steal verses out of context to make it say what they want....
Take Leviticus: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)
This is taken out of context. That whole chapter is focused on the Moloch worshipers. What those 'pagans' were doing was ritual sex and temple prostitution. The condemnation is not against homosexuals, it is against using sex for idolatry.
Myth-translations:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor [I]homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (NIV).[/I]
Compare the various translations here: http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/6-9.htm
The truth is no one knows what Paul (the author) was saying. In the Greek that he wrote in, he made up compound words attempting to express ideas that the Greeks had no words for. malakoi (Male prostitute/Effeminate) and arsenokoitai (contemporary homosexual).
Yet when we find Malakoi elsewhere in the bible it is translated in Matthew 11:8 and Luke 7:25 as "soft" (KJV) or as "fine" (NIV). In the early Christian church, the words were interpreted by some as referring to persons who are pliable, easily influenced, without courage or stability.... nothing to do with 'The gay'
"Arsenokoitai" is made up of two parts: "arsen" means "man"; "koitai" means "beds." Sounds like gay - but its not. The Greeks had a handy word that would have made it clear Paul was discussing homosexuals paiderasste.
The Septuagint hints at "male temple prostitutes" Ah... this goes back to Leviticus and the worshipers of Moloch....
Every since one of those verses pulled out of the bible to beat gays over the head have been twisted and turned into something that was not meant.
Read the story of Naomi and Ruth... Tell me its not two lesbians in love.
Read the story of David and Johnathan.... Two men in love, and David moved on to become God's right hand man in the form of King.
Jesus and the Centurion - the slave (pais) was actually the Centurion's lover. We can figure that out once we study the culture of Rome and how Centurions and their pais formed relationships. If this was merely a slave, the Centurion definitely would not have risks his position dealing with a Jewish Magician - such acts for the Roman's were grounds to be dismissed from the military.
Ask a modern minister what these things mean and he will pull out Doctrine. Doctrine is man's interpretation that has the Church's Stamp of Approval.
I did the seminary thing, they all but come out and tell you its a con game, then they tell you how to play the game.
There are others out there who know the truth.
You want to worship God and Christ in a church? Fine, start here: http://www.gaychristian.net/
Those people will be tolerant and will more or less carry the spirit of the Word - at least when it comes to the homosexual question.
Then the way that they steal verses out of context to make it say what they want....
Take Leviticus: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)
This is taken out of context. That whole chapter is focused on the Moloch worshipers. What those 'pagans' were doing was ritual sex and temple prostitution. The condemnation is not against homosexuals, it is against using sex for idolatry.
Myth-translations:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor [I]homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (NIV).[/I]
Compare the various translations here: http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/6-9.htm
The truth is no one knows what Paul (the author) was saying. In the Greek that he wrote in, he made up compound words attempting to express ideas that the Greeks had no words for. malakoi (Male prostitute/Effeminate) and arsenokoitai (contemporary homosexual).
Yet when we find Malakoi elsewhere in the bible it is translated in Matthew 11:8 and Luke 7:25 as "soft" (KJV) or as "fine" (NIV). In the early Christian church, the words were interpreted by some as referring to persons who are pliable, easily influenced, without courage or stability.... nothing to do with 'The gay'
"Arsenokoitai" is made up of two parts: "arsen" means "man"; "koitai" means "beds." Sounds like gay - but its not. The Greeks had a handy word that would have made it clear Paul was discussing homosexuals paiderasste.
The Septuagint hints at "male temple prostitutes" Ah... this goes back to Leviticus and the worshipers of Moloch....
Every since one of those verses pulled out of the bible to beat gays over the head have been twisted and turned into something that was not meant.
Read the story of Naomi and Ruth... Tell me its not two lesbians in love.
Read the story of David and Johnathan.... Two men in love, and David moved on to become God's right hand man in the form of King.
Jesus and the Centurion - the slave (pais) was actually the Centurion's lover. We can figure that out once we study the culture of Rome and how Centurions and their pais formed relationships. If this was merely a slave, the Centurion definitely would not have risks his position dealing with a Jewish Magician - such acts for the Roman's were grounds to be dismissed from the military.
Ask a modern minister what these things mean and he will pull out Doctrine. Doctrine is man's interpretation that has the Church's Stamp of Approval.
I did the seminary thing, they all but come out and tell you its a con game, then they tell you how to play the game.
There are others out there who know the truth.
You want to worship God and Christ in a church? Fine, start here: http://www.gaychristian.net/
Those people will be tolerant and will more or less carry the spirit of the Word - at least when it comes to the homosexual question.
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