Feminism and hatred towards feminism

[KawaiiKitty]

Except he does respect himself and that's obvious in the way he's presenting himself. He just has a different lifestyle than you do (how many time do I have to repeat that?). You're insulting him without knowing it, and that is the main problem here. You may not be attracted to it, but not giving people respect because they have different beliefs is really fucked up. You sound like a religious oppressor here.

Whether he respects himself or not really doesnt concern me or my opinion. In my opinion only what I think matters just like everyone else is like that. If I hear/see information that makes me change my mind then sure but up until this point my opinion has stayed the same. *shrug* He's free to think whatever he likes of himself of me of you of anyone. Youre free to feel that its fucked up for me to feel that way. I dont agree but youre free to feel that way. And Im not giving him more respect for his beliefs its like I said more to the fact that it seems he doesnt respect himself or his future relationships.

[VileKyle]

Whether he respects himself or not really doesnt concern me or my opinion. In my opinion only what I think matters just like everyone else is like that. If I hear/see information that makes me change my mind then sure but up until this point my opinion has stayed the same. *shrug* He's free to think whatever he likes of himself of me of you of anyone. Youre free to feel that its fucked up for me to feel that way. I dont agree but youre free to feel that way. And Im not giving him more respect for his beliefs its like I said more to the fact that it seems he doesnt respect himself or his future relationships.

Only what you think matters? Yeah, that's exactly the problem I'm addressing here. No, not everyone is like that. YOU are like that. A lot of other people happen to give half a damn about people around them. You are just taking your beliefs and fears out on other people. There's a word for that: bigotry. You've identified yourself to the exact definition of it.

The problem with bigotry is not that you have a belief or opinion. It's what you do with that belief or opinion. I think I stated that at the very beginning. Have your damn opinion. For fuck's sake, I will say it ONE LAST TIME! I don't care what your opinion is. Just stop disrespecting others based on your opinion. RESPECT! That is the issue.

Other people do respect themselves and you have no right to say they don't. They are them. You are not them. Stop dictating them. Live your own life and stop living their lives. Enjoy your single-partner relationship. I do that too. Just stop with the bullshit about making other people feel like shit for not living up to your "standards" that you have set for your own life.

[SolemnBoy]

Except whether or not I respect myself is really relevant because it would break your opinion that people who support open relationships don't do that.

Weren't you the guy who was shocked at the lack of respect and acceptance in the thread about obese partners? :/

[KawaiiKitty]

Only what you think matters? Yeah, that's exactly the problem I'm addressing here. No, not everyone is like that. YOU are like that. A lot of other people happen to give half a damn about people around them. You are just taking your beliefs and fears out on other people. There's a word for that: bigotry. You've identified yourself to the exact definition of it.

The problem with bigotry is not that you have a belief or opinion. It's what you do with that belief or opinion. I think I stated that at the very beginning. Have your damn opinion. For fuck's sake, I will say it ONE LAST TIME! I don't care what your opinion is. Just stop disrespecting others based on your opinion. RESPECT! That is the issue.

Other people do respect themselves and you have no right to say they don't. They are them. You are not them. Stop dictating them. Live your own life and stop living their lives. Enjoy your single-partner relationship. I do that too. Just stop with the bullshit about making other people feel like shit for not living up to your "standards" that you have set for your own life.

I cant make people feel any way other than what they want to feel. If they didnt want to feel like shit then they wouldnt feel like shit. I dont have some magical power to control people's feelings.

So basically you are telling me that I cant have my own opinion of other people because it makes them feel like shit. Ive never been one to cater to other people's feelings and Im not really about to start now. Im sorry if they are little delicate flower petals that cant stand to be told a differing opinion but that is how the real world works. If I feel that someone doesnt deserve respect then Ill be damned if Im going to respect them. Maybe you should give that a try instead. Realize that other people do have different opinions and sometimes they are not all positive nor do they always agree with your point of view.

[KawaiiKitty]

Except whether or not I respect myself is really relevant because it would break your opinion that people who support open relationships don't do that.

Weren't you the guy who was shocked at the lack of respect and acceptance in the thread about obese partners? :/

Obesity is a completely different thing. Eating is not something you can just choose not to do. You wont die from abstaining from bed hopping for 20 years before you decide to settle down. Theyre not even in the same league of being the same thing.

[VileKyle]

I cant make people feel any way other than what they want to feel. If they didnt want to feel like shit then they wouldnt feel like shit. I dont have some magical power to control people's feelings.

So basically you are telling me that I cant have my own opinion of other people because it makes them feel like shit. Ive never been one to cater to other people's feelings and Im not really about to start now. Im sorry if they are little delicate flower petals that cant stand to be told a differing opinion but that is how the real world works. If I feel that someone doesnt deserve respect then Ill be damned if Im going to respect them. Maybe you should give that a try instead. Realize that other people do have different opinions and sometimes they are not all positive nor do they always agree with your point of view.

Oh, so if I call you a fat and lazy bastard who can't control his own fat mouth around all the food he can't put down, I'm not suddenly making you feel like shit? Yes, I did that. I didn't want to go there, because that was too harsh. I don't like to go there because weight is your own damn issue that doesn't change my life in any way, but it is a good example of what I see here. That is exactly what you are doing here, and you aren't realizing it. You are using your words to hurt others just like I did in this post. Yeah, it's an opinion. The problem is that the opinion is being used to harm other people. Get it?

[KawaiiKitty]

Oh, so if I call you a fat and lazy bastard who can't control his own fat mouth around all the food he can't put down, I'm not suddenly making you feel like shit? Yes, I did that. I didn't want to go there, because that was too harsh. I don't like to go there because weight is your own damn issue that doesn't change my life in any way, but it is a good example of what I see here. That is exactly what you are doing here, and you aren't realizing it. You are using your words to hurt others just like I did in this post. Yeah, it's an opinion. The problem is that the opinion is being used to harm other people. Get it?

lol no not in the slightest actually because I know those things arent true about me. lol My ego/self worth isnt so fragile that I let every person who has an internet connection make me feel like shit because they have a different view point on life than my own.

[VileKyle]

lol no not in the slightest actually because I know those things arent true about me. lol My ego/self worth isnt so fragile that I let every person who has an internet connection make me feel like shit because they have a different view point on life than my own.

Fine. You're an obese piece of shit who has less value in society because of it. You have less respect from me and many others because of your refusal to eat less just like "normal" and "respectable" people should. You should feel ashamed of yourself. Why can't you be more like us skinny people?

That is what you sound like attacking these people. You could just say you are less attracted to them, which is really all I really think about you. Instead you go the route I stated above.

[SilverFrost]

yes because someone who runs out and plays in the middle of traffic is the innocent victim. The person who hits them is the criminal right?

Please, if someone is going to dress like a slut dont be surprised if they arent treated as such. No one deserves to be raped and it doesnt excuse the act but if you put it all out there on display the person who cant or wont control themselves just might take advantage. Its not about victim blaming but more about victim ignorance of how they are displaying themselves to the world. If you make yourself an easy target then dont be surprised if you become an easy target. Goodness forbid someone should be told that they should take responsibility for how much skin they show considering how overly sexualized our society is today.

I tried to stay out of this but enough is enough. A woman should be able to walk around naked if she wants to. No one has the right to touch her without her permission, no matter what she is wearing and no one AND I MEAN NO SINGLE ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BLAME THE ONE WHO GOT RAPED. Rapists are sick fucked up people. To them it is about power, not sex and it has nothing to do with how the victim is dressed.

[SolemnBoy]

Okay this thread is just way out of hand and cruel now. I'm out for real this time.