ch4 broadcast daily Muslim prayer!

[SolemnBoy]

Not really. The same questions are raised in Sweden as well. Regardless of the country people will always use fundamentalists in arguments that restrict the freedom of ALL muslims, fundamentalists or not. It would be one thing if the muslim community in the UK said "we want to ban Christian prayers from being broadcast and only allow Islamic ones!".

Saying "We want to broadcast our prayers" and then nothing more is another thing.

[VileKyle]

Really? Put that to a test.
Their government? So why is the government of all Muslim countries, make homosexuality illegal, with various draconian punishments? With the majority being a life time imprisonment, or death?


Any way, we aren't here to discus other countries, this thread is specificity about the UK and I find it amusing that the 'against' crew are from foreign shores, so with all due respect, your view point means very little.

Again, that's culture. Culture and religion are not the same thing. The culture in that region is set up like that, but Muslim organizations outside that region are not like that at all.

And we are here to discuss Islam as a religion, so I can talk about any country I want to. My opinion also has equal weight here, since I am as human as you are. Thank you very much.

[Englishman]

As opposed to an orthodox Christian church?

Around 10-20% of the students at my school are muslim, they've never raised any fuss about me being into cock? And I know what you're thinking! "Hey, individual examples like that don't add up to much evidence". Check the history of our Islamophobia debates on this site. If that's all my opponents are going to use I might as well give it a try because my statistics are never addressed.

How many modern Christian countries kill homosexuals?

Also the 10- 20% Muslims in your school are children, and on top of that, they are in a school, in a minority, of course they keep their heads down.

May I also mention the recent riots in Sweden, where the rioters were predominantly Muslim?

Obviously you are unable of keeping these debate on topic.

[Englishman]

Again, that's culture. Culture and religion are not the same thing. The culture in that region is set up like that, but Muslim organizations outside that region are not like that at all.

And we are here to discuss Islam as a religion, so I can talk about any country I want to. My opinion also has equal weight here, since I am as human as you are. Thank you very much.

No the topic is about a tv programme in Britain, not cultural differences of the world.

Muslim countries/cultures are all intertwined so it is the same thing.

[VileKyle]

How many modern Christian countries kill homosexuals?

Also the 10- 20% Muslims in your school are children, and on top of that, they are in a school, in a minority, of course they keep their heads down.

May I also mention the recent riots in Sweden, where the rioters were predominantly Muslim?

Obviously you are unable of keeping these debate on topic.

Again, you're blaming the countries. Islam is not a country, nor the reason those countries do what they do. They are doing it because they are assholes and they are using the religion to enforce their purpose. When someone is in charge of a large group of people they can dictate how their religion should be seen. Take those people out of power and the same religion doesn't have the same meaning.

[SolemnBoy]

How many modern Christian countries kill homosexuals?

Also the 10- 20% Muslims in your school are children, and on top of that, they are in a school, in a minority, of course they keep their heads down.

May I also mention the recent riots in Sweden, where the rioters were predominantly Muslim?

Obviously you are unable of keeping these debate on topic.

Children aged 18-19. Sure.

Oh you mean THOSE riots in Sweden? The ones perpetrated after our government kept placing such large quantities of immigrants in the same area that attaining a job there is virtually impossible and where the sky-high unemployment rates have been constantly neglected? Those riots! I'm not condoning the use of violence but muslim or not, those circumstances provoke reactions. You know, when people can hardly provide for their families and become stigmatized for living on welfare even though there are no jobs, chaos tends to follow. The funny thing is that nobody would care if the perpetrators were Polish.

A lot of my schoolmates don't believe there have ever been any terrorist acts made by hindu or buddhist individuals. Why? Because nobody seems to give a fuck about religious violence when it's not Islamic.

[megumidesu]

No the topic is about a tv programme in Britain, not cultural differences of the world.

Muslim countries/cultures are all intertwined so it is the same thing.

please explain to me exactly how broadcasting muslim prayers at 4 in the morning would hurt you , or anyone you know .

[megumidesu]

[Englishman]

It is the principal.

There are specific Muslim tv channels free to air.
Muslim prayers on network tv, just to stop the complaining Muslims from moaning about feeling like outsiders, when they themselves act like outsiders by refusing to integrate, is a slap in the face of Born and bred British men and women, it is as simple as that.

[VileKyle]

No the topic is about a tv programme in Britain, not cultural differences of the world.

Muslim countries/cultures are all intertwined so it is the same thing.

So you want to discuss the original topic exactly then. That's even less of a reason to make a fuss about it. Like Meg asked, I also wonder what the problem here is. A TV program can't attack you. You can attack it with the remote though.