Age of consent, paedophilia, NAMBLA etc.

[Bowyn Aerrow]

I honestly do my very best to never think about this subject.

[Sylph]

Except our mindsets aren't all that different. The only thing we feel differently about is the possibility of mutual love and attraction between child and adult. As extremely unusual as it is, I just don't see how it can be deemed impossible. To say that it cannot possibly occur would require extremely thorough research of a nature that can't be conducted under reasonable circumstances. I believe it can happen because "impossible" is a very strong word not to be underestimated.

Outside of this, our opinions are exactly the same and we're on the same side in terms of the juridical aspect of it all. I just wanted to open this up to debate because I enjoy talking about taboo subjects

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I said it's not a conceivable facet of love. It may be possible on a systemic level, but slim to none are the chances and I say this because of the past, our present and the future outcomes that are very obvious...

Research is not needed, as we know already, otherwise this would not even be a topic for discussion. If it were fine and acceptable and there were no significant ramifications, We would not even be discussing this topic, it would serve no purpose.

And surprisingly enough, this is not a Taboo topic. It is an uncomfortable topic and is a topic that has historical roots in stigma(from the effects of Pederasty), however, it's not Taboo, as say for instance impregnating your Mother.

The only reason people are uncomfortable with this, is for some of the reasons I've stated, especially due to the fact of the unforeseen and some predictable outcomes from such a pairing.

Impossible may be a word to use sparingly, however, the word improbable would be better suited.

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[SolemnBoy]

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Impossible may be a word to use sparingly, however, the word improbable would be better suited.

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Then there's nothing left we disagree on, yay! c:

[Sylph]

Then there's nothing left we disagree on, yay! c:

[COLOR="Blue"]Disagreeing to Agree, is Agreeing to Disagree

So yes, we are back at square one

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[Shiner]

Eh too many responses to read. However here is my view of NAMBLA and paedo's

1. They probably can't help the attraction. I really don't like thinking about it.
2. It's illegal because it does hurt people. Children aren't developed enough to make that choice and it often ends up with major psychological ramifications for those children when they grow up. Sure some might think its a fun idea? but do they really understand what they are doing and how they will feel later in life when they remember it.

I know a few girls that thought this was the case and started sleeping with older guys (18-19) when they were 11-13. Most of them felt it was fine at the time, but they all pretty much deeply regret it these days.

As for teenagers? it depends on the age and what their country believe is the age when they can legally consent. However while it might be legal for say a 14 year old to consent in some counties, are they mature enough to deal with some of the things that come from this? maybe not, maybe so.

16 is legal as the age of consent in Australia, and while I see that as being appropriate, it would never be appealing for me at my age (only 26) to consider having a relationship with someone at that age. There is nothing for me to gain out of it. I prefer someone that has had some life experience and can make decisions for themselves based off their past.

Also someone that can support themselves is appreciated.

[nfisher1226]

SolemnBoy, you are clearly overthinking the issue and applying some faulty reasoning.

Below a certain age and experience or intellect level, people are not able to grasp the full ramifications of having sex. This is compounded by the fact that there is a large overlap between the age that comes before wise choices appear and the age during which people have the most hormones in their system. This causes them to be really bad decision makers in regards to sex.

It's for those reasons, and quite a few other well thought out reasons, that virtually every modern society has age of consent laws. I understand that you basically can't stop teenagers from having sex if the opportunity is present, but frankly that's part of the point. They're not thinking clearly about the issue, and every adult knows this because they went through it. For an adult to take advantage of that fact is and act that has no moral justification.

Frankly, the age of consent laws in general are rather permissive if they allow 15 year olds to pass muster. I question whether 18 year olds are capable of making wise choices. I don't want to take away their right to screw up their lives as they see fit, but just please acknowledge that there is an incredibly huge difference between two adults having sex and an adult having sex with a minor. The only thing the two scenarios have in common is that the adults all know what they're doing.

[Fearful7980]

I feel that I see and can agree with all of the above and can add only that each stage of life from age 3 to6 and or 6 to 9 is not like that of 9 to 12 or even 12 to 15. Sex at any of these stages are part of our growth from male or female childhood play and fun time, after which, as adults it is no longer a game to be played for fun or pleasure only; but for it's proper use.

Even as adults we have much to learn about this part of our body, and at this stage from 15 to 18, and 18 to 21 we are a little bit more able to be free from childhood ignorance and foolishness. There is more to sex than right and wrong, good and bad, for it seems we become to have in us both male and female problems as we interact and relate to each other, in body, soul, mind and spirit, and in sexual and non-sexual ways.

Like LOVE seems to grow from infency to childhood, then in adolescence to adulthood before that of majuraity .

[SolemnBoy]

SolemnBoy, you are clearly overthinking the issue and applying some faulty reasoning.

Could you be more particular please? Based on some of the responses I wonder whether people even understand how I feel about this. Maybe I did a poor job explaining it.

[partis]

so you think its ok as long as theres mutual consent, is there an age limit on that because children are more easily manipulated and more likely to do things they later regret.

you say people cant be blamed for who they find attractive but when i see a child i see the adult they will become, an unformed person that need our safeguard and protection

[Expat]

There is a difference between claiming a teenager of 16 or 17 can consent (which is up for discussion) and claiming a 10 year old can (which is not). NAMBLA attempts to do the latter, which is wrong.

Yes, a body will respond to sexual stimulus whether the mind is ready to deal with it or not. Children experimenting with eachother is normal. Adults exploiting that is not. And what NAMBLA advocates is exploitation--nothing more.

I don't think it's as simple as the "let's grab our pitchforks and go after them" mentality, though. As someone upthread suggested, these are mentally ill people who need help. Giving them access to that help could spare a lot of them from acting on their desires, and ultimately protect more children.

That being said, once they act on it, I support the idea of them being chemically castrated.