If you dont like it at home leave

[partis]

I have a very long reply on this then the connection was lost so the whole thing was gone. tsk...
I will reply on this tomorrow night. Too sleepy

OMG that is so very annoying when that happens.

Sleep well :-)

[partis]

If you come over to MY place, I will cook YOU the best fukkin dinner you EVER had!!!!

Im there already… feed me :p

[partis]

Ever wondered why you were single and lonely ?

Yes but its nowt to do with what you might think… i dont think its too much to ask for a partner that doesnt live with there parent/s… im 30 years old, not 18.

[MisterTinkles]

Even though economics has a lot to do with moving out on your own, it can still be done. What I mean by "out on your own" is NOT living at home, you are living out on your own terms, not necessarily alone, but you are not living under your parents roof.

First, you have to remember the recession is still going on, regardless of how many "professionals" tell us otherwise. As far as the USA is concerned, the economic breakdown began with "9-11" and got worse in 2005, and continued to degrade until 2010. It takes anywhere from 10 - 25 years for ANY country to fully get over any economic disaster. Just look at the market crash of 1929 here in the USA, it totally killed our economy, and did not start to get better until the 1940's/1950's.

Setting economic issues aside, you CAN still make it out on your own. There ARE ALWAYS OPTIONS!! I know, because I took advantage of the options when I graduated High School.

For myself, when I graduated High School, I went to live in another state with a friend. I was unable to find work there, but my friend let me stay with him as long as I wanted. Since I could not find work, I moved in with my grandma. Family yes, but not my parents house!!!! I found a job, worked for a few years and then decided it was time to move on and get my own place.

I got my own place in Dallas, found a job, and lived alone until 2005 when I lost my job because of the recession. I then took advantage of staying with friends while still working a part time job.

Then I found a fulltime job and was able to get my own place again. Then that business went under, and found myself sleeping on another friends couch for a while.

I then took that opportunity to move to California, and I stayed with another friend until I found work there. I was in California for 4 years and then took what little money I had saved up and moved back to Dallas. And here is where I have been since.


It is not really your economic status so much, as it is what you are actually willing to do to get out of your parents house.

There are many, many options you can find or create, in order for you to leave home. The problem is, that most people would rather bitch, whine, and cry about it, because they don't have the "balls" to actually get up and DO something about it!! They don't want to give up their TV, cable, internet, and Xbox's for ANY amount of time, in order to become an independent, functioning adult.

And I can honestly say, one of the things that is in the top 5 Turn Off's when I talk to a guy, is when he says "I live with my parents". Its one thing if they are in bad health and you are there to take care of them, but its another just to still be living at home.

If anybody wants alternatives to being stuck living at home, they CAN find them because they ARE out there.

[MisterTinkles]

As a side note:

I worked with one girl who loved to move around. She had a list of places in the USA she wanted to visit, and she had already been to several different cities since she graduated high school.

What she did, was to rent a room from a private household, or a very cheap temporary apartment or hostel/hotel. She would then work a temp job until she had the money to move to the next place on her list.

She would research ahead and get a place ready to live, for when she got there. She also researched the jobs she wanted in that area she was moving.

And she did this WITHOUT the benefit of "smart phones", internet, a computer, or computerized devices!!!!

She lived with "the clothes on her back", her wits, and her determination. She not only got to see places and things, she got to experience many different jobs in the process.

She did this to not only see the USA while she was still young, it helped her to decide where she wanted to settle down, as well as what kind of job she wanted when she did settle down.

She created her own escape from her parents.
She created her own independent life, on her own terms.

[matty7]

everyones situation is different , if your thrown to the wolves at a young age then you will survive, you'll get some benefits (uk anyway) finds a squat, doss with friends etc.. whatever works really to feed yourself and not sleep under the stars then hopefully find work.....but if you have parents that will give you a home still after a certain age while u get education or while you work to get a deposit for your own place then wouldn't you take it ? some people do have long term plans but they involve their family to provide a roof and stability while the money comes to leave the nest - no right or wrong in my book - everyone want to have a place to call their own but its never handed on a plate

[EvenOlderButWiser]

My dad joined the navy when he was 15 years old, I more or less looked after myself since I was 16.

I know where your coming from

I joined the Air Force straight from 6th Form college when I was 18. Been self sustained and haven't lived at home since. That was 32 years ago.

Does my head in when I see youngsters complaining about everything in general these days....

Im probably just getting older mind LoL

ObW
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[Bowyn Aerrow]

No sir, the light at the end of the tunnel is actually the light of an on coming train. Not snuffed out - not by a long shot.

I hope that makes you feel happier.....:eek:

:biggrin:

[Ekwarph]

My dad joined the navy when he was 15 years old, I more or less looked after myself since I was 16.

So when I see 20 years olds pissing and moaning that there not getting on with there parents or kid brother/sister I donr bother replying.

Dont you want independence, dont you want a family of your own. Dont you want to move on with your own life, not stay with people who used to change your nappy and bottle feed you. Do you want to be getting nagged when your 30 or FORTY!

Yes i know its the trend to stay at home now and ive noticed especially with gay guys.

I kinda like your post Partis.
People should read that like an experience feedback, something that can give them courrage or help them. Not something to criticize I guess...

There's something I understood few time ago (I'm sure it's obvious but I'm just a stupid youngster who hardly discovers life you know), happiness doesn't only depend on your situation, but on your state of mind. It's a lot in the head.

And that is terrible because some who appearantly don't have that much to complain, people will forbid them to be depressed although they also need help...and for me, blaming them is like blaming a disabled guy in a wheelchair not to run a marathon (excuse me for the parallel, that's the first thing that come on mind to me).

You can't change anyone. Some are more sensitive than others. Suffering may teach life. I think.

[sillyboy86]

Obviously like everyone else, I though a lot about this, I'm in that age, around 30, the age you should live alone and do things for yourself to survive, without your parents etc. Probably 30 is also too late, I think the right age is around 20. I wanted to live alone even years before this line, but in the past I couldn't afford this life, for many reasons and personal problems.

And I was like a prisoner... Ok, I prefer to say these things as anonymous, but ok...

After that, I was able to live by myself only cause I worked, saving money to move in another country and restart working there. Now I'm at the beginning and... I'm facing this problem right now, in these days.

I agree with you, but everyone is different.

I have a lot of friends with a good degree, master etc, but they're living with the parents cause they have only an underpaid part time job, cause the situation is crazy. A couple of these friend wanted to marry etc, but at a certain point, last year, they've lost their job. Both. Cause they're good worker they both have a good master degrees etc, but the situation in Italy (and not only here) is shitty. Another one changed 5 permanent jobs in the last 2 or 3 years, cause the factories has failed.
Someone was more lucky, but the most... Not.
So, if you want to live alone, but you need your parents to pay your bills for you... You know.

I'm not fit for this money-society, maybe I'm too crazy. Right now I'm thinking if I can afford this kind of life, this kind of society, cause probably working months or years in a fast food or in a random coffee shop only to pay my bills is not for me. It's a normal job, but I can go crazy with something like this, and I'm very inclined to going crazy, so maybe I will prefer to become an homeless, or do something very crazy, or maybe not, and live a normal life. For this society. But not for me, cause I tested myself many times in the past, so I already know the answer.
But I'm trying to avoid the answer... And I don't wanna lie to myself.
Everyone is different.