I have read a story or 2 about the caucasus countries and eastern Turkey, mind you..
death threats, lynching, persecution, all of it..
merely poiting out that comparatively (and sadly) Turkey is still not as bad as sunni ruled countries..
not diminishing of course the dangers you have to live with there..
again, I repeat, we are here for you  mile:
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southbiochem Wrote:I have read a story or 2 about the caucasus countries and eastern Turkey, mind you..
death threats, lynching, persecution, all of it..
merely poiting out that comparatively (and sadly) Turkey is still not as bad as sunni ruled countries..
not diminishing of course the dangers you have to live with there..
again, I repeat, we are here for you mile:
Thank you for being so nice to me. I just wish that i would get out of that counrty.
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welcome to GS , sorry to here about Turkey been so hard on gay people,at least you can use gayspeak as you outlet to chat and be yourself
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Onurelt Wrote:Im here for to talk with people. Im almost 21 and Im gay but I havent talk any gay people ever. Because in my country people see gay people as sick ones and they always make fun of people like me. So I havent mat any gay people. As a gay man I know that is embarrising. But Its not my fault. So pls ask me what ever you want I just want to talk with people who understands me. I will answer all questions. By the way I live in Turkey dont ever come there that is the worst country for gay people.
Welcome...
You are not in an uncommon situation. Here in Canada we have marriage equality and equal legal rights, but we're still made fun of a lot, and prejudice runs rampant in smaller communities such as my own, primarily with the older generations. This is a gain though, since it means homophobia is dying out. Yet, at one point, homosexuality was illegal here, and gay = peadophiles in the minds of many people (no one thinks this any more).
This was not permanent, and change did and will come.
I hope you will live to see your country change, and a youth generation where there are many open and proud people living out of the closet (If using a translator: The phrase I just used means "People who do not have to hide who they are.".. This has been described by many of this forum's older members as a good thing to see.
Currently, in your country, organisations that are fighting for legal rights have won several legal battles - your court system may be where the key victories will come from. Currently, there are LGBT clubs organizing in several universities in your country. Pride parades and associated legal battles have succeeded. You are actually the first muslim country where this happened. Your opposition parties are currently fighting to have LGBT acknowledgement in your constitution. I do believe that these are good signs.
I read the LGBT rights wikipedia page anytime I see someone talking about LGBT rights in their country. If you ever want to do the same, simply google "LGBT rights [country] wikipedia". If you want to read it your own, it's here, it's not the best but it's not the worst I've seen,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Turkey
**LGBT: Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender. Occassionally the T is dropped, as gender and sexuality are not related on basis of a technicality, but they're often grouped in with us by bigots, so our fight is their fight.
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Sorry, I wrote a reply a while ago and it didn't post :mad:
Welcome, Onurelt, I hope you make some friends here. I don't know much about Turkey. My partner had Turkish neighbours, but it was really hard to speak to them because they didn't really talk to us.
The statistics never tell the whole story. Although being gay is not illegal in Turkey and and the law has just been changed in Northern Cyprus I agree with Woollyhats that attitudes are more difficult to change. Here in the UK (or with my partner at his place in France) we don't often feel we can just hold hands like most couples. There have been homophobically motivated murders here in recent times too. Yes things are better than they were in the past, but we still have a long way to go.
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ggugcuuau Wrote:Merhaba, welcome to GS!
Teşekkürler ( thanks )
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Woollyhats Wrote:Welcome...
You are not in an uncommon situation. Here in Canada we have marriage equality and equal legal rights, but we're still made fun of a lot, and prejudice runs rampant in smaller communities such as my own, primarily with the older generations. This is a gain though, since it means homophobia is dying out. Yet, at one point, homosexuality was illegal here, and gay = peadophiles in the minds of many people (no one thinks this any more).
This was not permanent, and change did and will come.
I hope you will live to see your country change, and a youth generation where there are many open and proud people living out of the closet (If using a translator: The phrase I just used means "People who do not have to hide who they are.".. This has been described by many of this forum's older members as a good thing to see.
Currently, in your country, organisations that are fighting for legal rights have won several legal battles - your court system may be where the key victories will come from. Currently, there are LGBT clubs organizing in several universities in your country. Pride parades and associated legal battles have succeeded. You are actually the first muslim country where this happened. Your opposition parties are currently fighting to have LGBT acknowledgement in your constitution. I do believe that these are good signs.
I read the LGBT rights wikipedia page anytime I see someone talking about LGBT rights in their country. If you ever want to do the same, simply google "LGBT rights [country] wikipedia". If you want to read it your own, it's here, it's not the best but it's not the worst I've seen,
**LGBT: Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender. Occassionally the T is dropped, as gender and sexuality are not related on basis of a technicality, but they're often grouped in with us by bigots, so our fight is their fight.
Omg. I didnt expect feom anyone such an interest. Thank you for doing all of these writing and research but you think that Turkey is going better. That is not true if you would live there and see the situation of people like us. Even most of politicians dont believe the gay
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marshlander Wrote:Sorry, I wrote a reply a while ago and it didn't post :mad:
Welcome, Onurelt, I hope you make some friends here. I don't know much about Turkey. My partner had Turkish neighbours, but it was really hard to speak to them because they didn't really talk to us.
The statistics never tell the whole story. Although being gay is not illegal in Turkey and and the law has just been changed in Northern Cyprus I agree with Woollyhats that attitudes are more difficult to change. Here in the UK (or with my partner at his place in France) we don't often feel we can just hold hands like most couples. There have been homophobically motivated murders here in recent times too. Yes things are better than they were in the past, but we still have a long way to go.
You are absolutely right. But at least i wish i have a boyfriend in here. I didnt care what people think and do.
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Do be careful though .. been openly gay and happy on GS is a lot different to been open in Turkey ,, I would rather you be safe and able to chat with us than some horrible alternative
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