I thought I was straight because I didn't know anything about homosexuality. As soon as I realised I choose my porn based on the men (not the women), contrary to what my friends did, I realised something was up. Didn't take long from there before my life was a dreadful nightmare I just wanted to end. But now life is gay and good 
I was always gay. I just didn't always know.
I was born this way baby.
I find the idea of straights turning gay proposterous. But there are many things that I find proposterous.
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There seem too be a lot of straight guys who are really curious about gay sex - I've had guys ask a lot of questions and they seem to get turned on by the answers. Sometimes it can be hilarious. Last summer this straight friend started really flirting - touching me a lot and making suggestive remarks. I finally asked him straight (you should forgive the expression) out, "What do you want?" and his answer was, "I don't know --- but I want it". I couldn't stop laughing --- I said, "Would you like to see a menu?" But eventually we ended up have a very pleasant weekend. At first he decided he was bi but then he met a guy who has turned him (as he puts it) "full gay". You never know.
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gaycraig Wrote:I also highly agree that we are bisexual deep inside we just need to let it out. It is true our natural instincts have been suppressed and now it suits certain powerful families for population reduction they decide we can finally mass try this and make it acceptable finally. I do not think a bisexual society will ruin the population too much but then again once we try gay we tend to end up preferring it.
There have been cultures in the past where homosexuality was not only accepted but preferred. And they didn't die out because everyone stopped breeding.
In ancient Greece, one bit of conventional wisdom was "Women for duty, men for pleasure." Husbands and wives typically slept in different bedrooms unless they planned to procreate.
Celtic warriors who made each other's acquaintance would commonly extend the offer of sex simply to have a closer friendship, and it was considered highly insulting to refuse.
Western and Islamic cultures, unfortunately, are extreme in their heterosexism, probably because of the views the ancient Hebrews had about it. Of course, those views were formed in a time when the tribes needed to breed as much as possible.
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davearoo Wrote:There have been cultures in the past where homosexuality was not only accepted but preferred. And they didn't die out because everyone stopped breeding.
In ancient Greece, one bit of conventional wisdom was "Women for duty, men for pleasure." Husbands and wives typically slept in different bedrooms unless they planned to procreate.
Celtic warriors who made each other's acquaintance would commonly extend the offer of sex simply to have a closer friendship, and it was considered highly insulting to refuse.
Western and Islamic cultures, unfortunately, are extreme in their heterosexism, probably because of the views the ancient Hebrews had about it. Of course, those views were formed in a time when the tribes needed to breed as much as possible.
The problem we have today is that the education system (common core) is dumbing down the youth so much that they are almost drones. Today they class anything around thirty years old as ancient history. What chance have we got of teaching people about real ancient history and groups from these periods. I often expose ancient orders which still exist to this day but the mass cannot grasp. The medical establishment further hinders the human being through the likes of vaccination especially at a reall early age. Not to mention all the neuro-toxins in the food supply and the dreaded Fluoride now even exposed by The Lancet. None of this should be any surprise is one has read Bertrand Russell's book called 'The Impact of Science on Society!'
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OlderButWiser Wrote:OK, I'll play.
In my opinion, the only thing that has significantly changed is that society has become much more tolerant and accepting of the LGBT community, to the point where partnerships and marriage within the LGBT community is now the norm, at least in those countries with the vision to embrace the LGBT community rather than suppress it.
This has resulted in many LGBT people, who would publicly describe themselves as "straight" actually feeling the time is right to stop repressing who they really are. I was one of these "straight" guys until about 11 years ago.
As for the comments about conditioning yourself to become gay, Im afraid your being delusional.
No straight person wants to become gay. You may have been a closeted gay guy who suppressed his sexuality, who has finally found his voice.
You don't make yourself gay, just as you don't choose to be gay. Human sexuality is one of those predisposed genetic selection processes. You may choose to hide or disguise your sexuality, but if your gay, your gay, even if you project a straight mans persona.
Just be happy with who you are, LGBT or not.
ObW
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You sir are incorrect about me and it is wrong to assume all people are the same and have the same wants. If you read my introduction you might know a bit more about it. Now if you sit and think about your words then you are actually attacking being gay otherwise you would not prefer to be heterosexual or not want to be gay as if there is something wrong with it. I actually chose myself to want to be bi/gay as I was fed up with women and I did find a slight curiosity come on out the blue all of a sudden. I study social engineering and know the tricks and how people can condition themselves.
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I cant even be arsed to play. I agree with olderbutwiser - you are either gay or not... you cant just pick it like a favourite or something, people on this board struggle with being gay and post threads on how terrible their lives have been....you trivialise it saying you conditioned yourself to be gay like its your new years resolution to be gay, I hope your not a troll to be honest, we have had problems in the past with trolls...
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OlderButWiser Wrote:In my opinion, the only thing that has significantly changed is that society has become much more tolerant and accepting of the LGBT community, to the point where partnerships and marriage within the LGBT community is now the norm, at least in those countries with the vision to embrace the LGBT community rather than suppress it.
This has resulted in many LGBT people, who would publicly describe themselves as "straight" actually feeling the time is right to stop repressing who they really are. I was one of these "straight" guys until about 11 years ago.
As for the comments about conditioning yourself to become gay, Im afraid your being delusional.
No straight person wants to become gay. You may have been a closeted gay guy who suppressed his sexuality, who has finally found his voice.
You don't make yourself gay, just as you don't choose to be gay. Human sexuality is one of those predisposed genetic selection processes. You may choose to hide or disguise your sexuality, but if your gay, your gay, even if you project a straight mans persona.
Just be happy with who you are, LGBT or not.
ObW
X I've said this elsewhere on GS, but I think it bears repeating now: Very few people are 100% straight or 100% gay.
When I mentioned earlier in the thread that people have both straight and gay urges, I certainly didn't mean to imply that the two are equally strong in everyone. If you look at sexuality as a continuum between straight and gay, instead of a binary classifier, most people are on a "bell curve" distribution. To put it another way, a few of us have much stronger tendencies in one direction - by nature - than in the other direction. This is neither good nor bad; it's just a part of the way we are. Science does not yet know whether it's purely genetic, hormonal, or something else entirely, but at the end of the day, most of us don't really need to care about why.
It's better to focus on the pursuit of happiness instead.
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matty7 Wrote:I cant even be arsed to play. I agree with olderbutwiser - you are either gay or not... you cant just pick it like a favourite or something, people on this board struggle with being gay and post threads on how terrible their lives have been....you trivialise it saying you conditioned yourself to be gay like its your new years resolution to be gay, I hope your not a troll to be honest, we have had problems in the past with trolls...
That is there problem and no one else's if they struggle with what they really are or have become. I and others have no problems with our sexuality and do not care what others think. To throw everyone under one mindset is ludicrous. So simply because I chose to become gay I am outcasted by certain gay people just because they are not happy they are gay but then claim that gay sex is normal. What we have here is some serious double-think and double-speak. I think a lot of gay people have a particular believe that everyone is either gay or straight and you are born with it. I believe we are more bisexual than one or the other. The facts are that some people become gay ever after never ever knowing, denying or feeling it for many years, decades even. Face facts and it is no big deal at the end of the day they are now gay or bi and enjoying it, LIVE WITH IT. Strange how when someone has a different mindset the few people who maybe are not so open minded will throw this pathetic troll word around. A word that is mostly used today to suppress and censor truth and peoples OPINIONS! Do not be part of the herd be an individual. I've contributed to numerous threads already so how can I be troll with some of the in depth long replies I give. Do not offend me again.
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Do not offend me again. !! your are correct , I wont offend you again , ive blocked you so I don't see your posts again
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I don't think those men were ever straight to begin with their were probably bi or gay .
davearoo Wrote:People in general are beginning to realize that we all have both straight and gay urges by nature. It's just that our culture teaches us to forget about, or even suppress, our gay sides as we're growing up.
Now that publicly gay behavior is becoming more accepted, more people are beginning to explore it. In the long run, I see this as a good thing because I believe in the pursuit of happiness - regardless of your sexual preference.
I don't agree with this first of all I tried pretty damn hard to be bisexual and couldn't be for the life of me so I don't like when people say this not everyone is bisexual stop peddling this because some people even committed suicide trying to have at least some attraction to the opposite sex . Not everyone is bisexual and people who say that are in denial about being bisexual so they say stuff like how everyone has a gay and straight urges but are conditioned to be either or no my friend it's not that way because most of us in the closet who are gay or lesbian and tried to feel some straight urges . People who say this are in denial about their own bisexuality and can't accept so they put it on everyone else and use it as a security blanket so they can sleep calmly in that lie .
and lie to themselves being bi
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