Str8s turning gay

[gaycraig]

I don't think those men were ever straight to begin with their were probably bi or gay .



I don't agree with this first of all I tried pretty damn hard to be bisexual and couldn't be for the life of me so I don't like when people say this not everyone is bisexual stop peddling this because some people even committed suicide trying to have at least some attraction to the opposite sex . Not everyone is bisexual and people who say that are in denial about being bisexual so they say stuff like how everyone has a gay and straight urges but are conditioned to be either or no my friend it's not that way because most of us in the closet who are gay or lesbian and tried to feel some straight urges . People who say this are in denial about their own bisexuality and can't accept so they put it on everyone else and use it as a security blanket so they can sleep calmly in that lie .
and lie to themselves being bi

Just because someone cannot be with a member of the same-sex this does not mean they were not naturally born bi-sexual. That being has been brain screwed from birth by a society turned against homosexuality. These people are not accessing their natural instincts or not decoupling them from the mental imprisoning by a sick society hoping we do not know history and how homosexuality was the norm. This is called social engineering. This will all be a thing of the past in the near future and I am sure they will prove we are all bisexual in natural. You have to understand that the power of the mind is intense and can even take over the spiritual system at times as we do see. If people were not naturally bisexual then why are the triggers in place right now which are aiding the conversion of straight men into bisexual or gay? All the predictive programming is a trigger (soaps, TV) and of course pornography is a trigger along with man more including even foods. We have simply been mastered by firstly a priesthood system and now it is continuing with a scientific oligarchy/dictatorship such as what Bertrand Russell speaks of in his book 'The Impact of Science on Society.' The acceptance of homosexuality (a natural state of being) is an aid to the destruction of both gender and class which are two of the oligarchy's agendas along with the destruction of race through race breeding as highlighted by Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi in his 'Practical Idealism'. It is all social engineering. Now when we keep being programmed on a daily basis with numerous programmes what can happen especially if neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) is employed? The being can overload just as a Windows PC can crash if you load up to many things at once. This is partly the reason some people crack amongst other pressures right now tied with the toxicity issues such as Fluoride and pharmaceuticals. There is always a much different reasoning behind the visible side of the curtain.

[AlohaShannon]

Olderbutwiser and Matty, thanks for calling him out! I have to echo their thoughts. To say that you chose to be gay like you chose what to wear is an insult. You are turning sexual identity into a "flavor of the day" concept and clearly revealing that your "choice" to be gay is in response to the huge culture shift of acceptance. I am reminded of the numerous high school kids I've seen that identify with being gay because it is currently the "in" thing to do (discerning which are phony and which are legit is a topic for a completely separate conversation so don't get sidetracked).

And I also agree that if I HAD the choice, I would have chosen to be heterosexual and not lose my wife and kids!!! Shame on you for reducing sexual orientation to a light switch.

[Cuddly]

I certainly agree with you Shannon, OlderButWiser and Matty, but that's not to say gaycraig doesn't feel exactly as he's describing it. Maybe he genuinly believes he decided to become gay. Who knows? Maybe it's even true.

I know for a fact that I wasn't given a choice. Had I been given a choice I would've been straight. I am here on gayspeak because I have very few friends who truely understand what I'm going through, as an openly gay man. I've never been a victim of gaycism, but I am a guy with a boyfriend and that's plenty of trouble that I would like to have somebody to discuss with. Hence me being here. Being able to relate to only "10%" of the population is a bit of a curse and makes me feel lonely at times.

[AlohaShannon]

Cuddly, I can accept that Gaycraig was always bisexual to a degree and chose to explore being gay or that he had suppressed desires for men and now has accepted his orientation. I cannot accept the idea that one can condition themselves to be gay where there was no desire before. I'm not saying that is how Gaycraig feels, but his post seemed to me to reduce orientation merely to a matter of choice. And that is what has me feeling particularly bitchy.

[Cuddly]

Cuddly, I can accept that Gaycraig was always bisexual to a degree and chose to explore being gay or that he had suppressed desires for men and now has accepted his orientation. I cannot accept the idea that one can condition themselves to be gay where there was no desire before. I'm not saying that is how Gaycraig feels, but his post seemed to me to reduce orientation merely to a matter of choice. And that is what has me feeling particularly bitchy.

Me too. My blood boiled so I crossed the browser and left it for a day before writing anything on it. But if that's truely how he's experiencing it, then who are we to say it's not so? We can disagree all we like and try to convince him otherwise, but let's do so without taking off our high heels and rolling up our sleeves.
As I said, I wouldn't be here if I could just choose to be straight.

[AlohaShannon]

You're awesome Cuddly!

[Melody]

Just because someone cannot be with a member of the same-sex this does not mean they were not naturally born bi-sexual. That being has been brain screwed from birth by a society turned against homosexuality. These people are not accessing their natural instincts or not decoupling them from the mental imprisoning by a sick society hoping we do not know history and how homosexuality was the norm. This is called social engineering. This will all be a thing of the past in the near future and I am sure they will prove we are all bisexual in natural. You have to understand that the power of the mind is intense and can even take over the spiritual system at times as we do see. If people were not naturally bisexual then why are the triggers in place right now which are aiding the conversion of straight men into bisexual or gay? All the predictive programming is a trigger (soaps, TV) and of course pornography is a trigger along with man more including even foods. We have simply been mastered by firstly a priesthood system and now it is continuing with a scientific oligarchy/dictatorship such as what Bertrand Russell speaks of in his book 'The Impact of Science on Society.' The acceptance of homosexuality (a natural state of being) is an aid to the destruction of both gender and class which are two of the oligarchy's agendas along with the destruction of race through race breeding as highlighted by Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi in his 'Practical Idealism'. It is all social engineering. Now when we keep being programmed on a daily basis with numerous programmes what can happen especially if neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) is employed? The being can overload just as a Windows PC can crash if you load up to many things at once. This is partly the reason some people crack amongst other pressures right now tied with the toxicity issues such as Fluoride and pharmaceuticals. There is always a much different reasoning behind the visible side of the curtain.

I don't agree with one thing you said because I use to label myself as bi , you know how I know I'm not bi because I have no attraction to the opposite sex just women I was not conditioned to be gay from my early childhood I was told I was suppose to like the opposite sex I even got beaten by my own dad for kissing another girl . And I've done things with a man to this day that I'm disgusted with myself for and still feel shame about it today . I go outside in the real world and for years now I have yet for my head to turn when I see a good looking guy it always happens with a woman and I use to think crap something is wrong with me why aren't noticing the men . So what your saying isn't true for me and I'm sure it isn't true for anyone else that's gay or lesbian because if I had some attraction to the opposite sex I would have had it because God knows I tried suppressing same sex attraction and focusing on the opposite sex and boy did I try . what you say reminds me of what my friend said when I came out to her that I need to try harder to like men >.< and also my other friend who is bi and told me how can you not like d**k you should try sex . Not everyone is bi and some of us been through hell and back trying to like the opposite sex . My whole life since birth my parents have been telling to like the opposite sex and even have to hear this crap today . So I get offended when people say stuff like this .

[gaycraig]

I just wonder what the U.S. Military knows what we do not know about homosexuality seeing as they've had the gay bomb for quite some time now which was mentioned in the media. Might the Department of Defense be accessing whats in built into all of us? Was their original weapons hormonal in some way and are their new weapons based on genetics? What if the rise of homosexuality is actually being added by microwave and viral manipulation of our DNA which is very easy today through Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering compounds and the Cell phone transponder network along with the wireless network all acting as carriers. I guess many here are not aware of 'silent weapons for silent wars' but things are never clear cut. We can be conditioned to any state of mind we desire or someone else desires for us and especially if this conditioning is done from day one or a child, one of the reasons for indoctrination camps they call schools with mandatory indoctrination through threat of imprisonment. Seems a lot of people on here do not have open minds like they may think they have and also they like to have their opinion but ignore someones facts just because it does not suit their illusions or thought form. I do not care what John Smith did with his life because he was gay and did not like it. If I want to condition myself to a stage where I can have sex with a man and enjoy it then thats good for me and my own wishes. It is not my fault some do not like what they are or been conditioned to be by someone else. I am a free thinker and not part of the collective herd mentality.

[AlohaShannon]

What? Lol, wow...

[swalter]

Gay Bomb? Just, wow.