Music Tastes?

[meridannight]

but gay men don't have the diva appreciation anymore like they once did.

thankfully.


it is a thing of the past. at least i hope it is. i never understood this. it seriously escapes me why it was ever a thing in the first place.

[CellarDweller]

The fact that there are scores of young gay men who worship at the altars of Lady Gaga (her Little Monsters), and Ke$ha (her Animals) just shows that diva worship is still around.

They may not be divas in the conventional sense, but their fans think they are.

[TentoumuChu]

Mostly J-Pop (with cute, young girls dancing)

[Lexington]

It's not taboo so much as it's just no longer a given.

Lex

[East]

thankfully.


it is a thing of the past. at least i hope it is. i never understood this. it seriously escapes me why it was ever a thing in the first place.

I think it was a shared path...back in the 60s and 70s not many people were thrilled with gay people...or women who took charge or didn't do what they were told...and these kinds of women...and feminists in general...were the first allies we had...and the ones who stood up for us when no one else would....our struggles were similar in many respects....

I think they became gay icons because each one of them broke the rules and did things they weren't "supposed to do"...it was a mutual admiration....there was a natural bond....

For me...I never forget my friends....even the ones I don't personally know...I am loyal to a fault..

I think now that we are mainstream that bond and that era might be gone...but I appreciate it for what it was/is... and will not forget it.

[meridannight]

I think it was a shared path...back in the 60s and 70s not many people were thrilled with gay people...or women who took charge or didn't do what they were told...and these kinds of women...and feminists in general...were the first allies we had...and the ones who stood up for us when no one else would....our struggles were similar in many respects....

I think they became gay icons because each one of them broke the rules and did things they weren't "supposed to do"...it was a mutual admiration....there was a natural bond....

For me...I never forget my friends....even the ones I don't personally know...I am loyal to a fault..

I think now that we are mainstream that bond and that era might be gone...but I appreciate it for what it was/is... and will not forget it.

of course not. you have history and experience with that. i get that.

i thought it might be some cultural difference that comes with having grown up in different times. thanks for explaining it to me.

luckily such struggles are past now.
[MENTION=14580]CellarDweller[/MENTION], scores of young people, listen to and like Lady Gag-a, and Kesha. this isn't specific to young gay guys. and gays my age, you don't see any of that. and it's certainly nothing like or for reasons East described.

[ShiftyNJ]

WHAT!!!! am I the only "proper" queen in the neighborhood here?????

Don't tell me I'm the only one who listens to Barbra Streisand, Bette Midler, and Judy Garland.........

Our LGBTIQ etc community...... is lost.................... I shall now go into my dark, damp corner and lament the loss.

Sadly,
Jim

LOL I am sure you're not alone. For me, though, anything that starts out "You're gay, you're supposed to like..." generally sends me running in the other direction. I enjoy muddling stereotypes.

[Jerry]

LOL I am sure you're not alone. For me, though, anything that starts out "You're gay, you're supposed to like..." generally sends me running in the other direction. I enjoy muddling stereotypes.

Yes, these days everyone is his own Diva

[Iceblink]

I think it was a shared path...back in the 60s and 70s not many people were thrilled with gay people...or women who took charge or didn't do what they were told...and these kinds of women...and feminists in general...were the first allies we had...and the ones who stood up for us when no one else would....our struggles were similar in many respects....

I think they became gay icons because each one of them broke the rules and did things they weren't "supposed to do"...it was a mutual admiration....there was a natural bond....

For me...I never forget my friends....even the ones I don't personally know...I am loyal to a fault..

I think now that we are mainstream that bond and that era might be gone...but I appreciate it for what it was/is... and will not forget it.

Part of this is change within the 'gay world' as we have become more mainstreamed into the world at large, but part of it is also reflective of how the music industry has changed. The music industry was one of the first to market, but the industry also marketed to the rest of culture. The industry had a lot of control of the music you heard and were exposed to. They controlled radio, music heard on television, concert venues, and even what was supplied to nightclubs and it was not easy to find music outside of those controls. Many djs were Billboard reporting djs and paid attention to the music on Billboard and other charts which is part of how people like Madonna, Donna Summer, Diana Ross, became superstars in the gay world which was at one time a lot more centered around the gay bar and club scene. With the internet, the industry has lost a lot of control, both for gay people and the rest of the world. It is easy to find all kinds of music and to personalize your music preferences to you and not necessarily what the industry says you should listen to. Your local broadcast radio station is not the only game in town anymore. It was not until the end of the year in 2014 that an album finally gained platinum status in the U.S. and if it had not done that, it would have been the first year since they began keeping track that an album would have failed to do that. Some of it is that we no longer have to buy an album to hear it. With Spotify, YouTube, Rhapsody, or Soundcloud, we do not even have to bother to get a download, legally or illegally, to hear an album anytime and anywhere we want. But part of it also that loss of industry control of what we hear. There will never again be a Michael Jackson's Thriller, a Beatles' Abbey Road, or a Madonna's Like A Virgin. Those days are gone.

[ShiftyNJ]

Part of this is change within the 'gay world' as we have become more mainstreamed into the world at large, but part of it is also reflective of how the music industry has changed. The music industry was one of the first to market, but the industry also marketed to the rest of culture. The industry had a lot of control of the music you heard and were exposed to. They controlled radio, music heard on television, concert venues, and even what was supplied to nightclubs and it was not easy to find music outside of those controls. Many djs were Billboard reporting djs and paid attention to the music on Billboard and other charts which is part of how people like Madonna, Donna Summer, Diana Ross, became superstars in the gay world which was at one time a lot more centered around the gay bar and club scene. With the internet, the industry has lost a lot of control, both for gay people and the rest of the world. It is easy to find all kinds of music and to personalize your music preferences to you and not necessarily what the industry says you should listen to. Your local broadcast radio station is not the only game in town anymore. It was not until the end of the year in 2014 that an album finally gained platinum status in the U.S. and if it had not done that, it would have been the first year since they began keeping track that an album would have failed to do that. Some of it is that we no longer have to buy an album to hear it. With Spotify, YouTube, Rhapsody, or Soundcloud, we do not even have to bother to get a download, legally or illegally, to hear an album anytime and anywhere we want. But part of it also that loss of industry control of what we hear. There will never again be a Michael Jackson's Thriller, a Beatles' Abbey Road, or a Madonna's Like A Virgin. Those days are gone.

That is very true, and one of the consequences is that the radio that remains is that much MORE homogenized, not even unique by region, since ClearChannel and a few other providers have gobbled up what is left of the market. The morning show on one of the big top-40 stations in NYC is now franchised to other markets around the region, although my friend who commutes between NJ and Delaware insists the Delaware version plays different music. I haven't had a chance to dive into that; I don't listen to FM anyway, a symptom of what you describe above.