The person below me!

[sox-and-the-city]

Yes, but only in the same way i'm glad that my colleague became an auntie, and i'm glad that swans enjoy the crown's protection. It doesn't really affect me. Huzzah for walking everywhere!!

The person below me can use chopsticks.

[fjp999]

Yeppers. 100% on the Huzzah for walkers or any ped!

True. After 10 years in Tokyo I am pretty good at 99% of dishes - fried eggs were always a trouble though

The person below me has used a squate toilet and enjoyed them

[sweetlad86]

FALSE. You would also have to add a licensing scheme (and what age do you start at: 5 years old ), bicycle inspection... The fair tax and insurance would be sooooooo LOW *damage to the road/damage done by bicycle to others (I may be wrong but there has never been a case where a cyclist has run over a human and killed them???) AND DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GIVE CYCLIST FAIR USE OF THE ROAD - WANNA BE STUCK BEHIND A GROUP OF FIVE YEAR OLDERS GOING THREE MILES AN HOUR

The person below me is GLAD push bikes dont have fair laws of the road

Thats a load of ball that push bikes don't do any damage to any thing.

Push bikes are band in parts of the countryside in the UK because of the damage they do to the Environment, before you go all defensive. You more likely haven't heard of the sport Down Hill Biking, and haven't been on a nice walk when you hear and see some tit fly pass you and hit someone you are walking with in the back. They you go over to them and help your friend up experting the thick guy on the bike to help to but just get up and carry on down the hill.

And about 25 people in the UK die from being hit by push bikes. You wouldn't happy if got hit by some twat on a silly bike would you.

And if you are saying a 5 year old is safe riding their bikes around the roads in the UK I would think again. I thing bikes should be insured and tax , and children under 12 years old shouldn't be any where near the roads in the UK anyway.

I really hate driving along and then needing to be extra careful when you see a family riding their bikes down a fast moving country road and then when you are driving around the country lanes around where I'm from you seen theses totally think townies riding there bikes around the lanes like they are in town and not thinking that the lane are on is a single lane road that two cars couldn't pass each other and when you come to a corner you should get off the bike and walk on the side of the road that an on coming car see you so that they can slow down to pass you.

But oh no because you are a push biker you know more than any one else.

Frank sorry if this sounds personal but I'm guessing you haven't ever ridden a push bike around the country lanes of the UK...

[sweetlad86]

Nope.

The person below me hate me now:redface:

[fjp999]

Thats a load of ball that push bikes don't do any damage to any thing.

Push bikes are band in parts of the countryside in the UK because of the damage they do to the Environment, before you go all defensive. You more likely haven't heard of the sport Down Hill Biking, and haven't been on a nice walk when you hear and see some tit fly pass you and hit someone you are walking with in the back. They you go over to them and help your friend up experting the thick guy on the bike to help to but just get up and carry on down the hill.

And about 25 people in the UK die from being hit by push bikes. You wouldn't happy if got hit by some twat on a silly bike would you.

And if you are saying a 5 year old is safe riding their bikes around the roads in the UK I would think again. I thing bikes should be insured and tax , and children under 12 years old shouldn't be any where near the roads in the UK anyway.

I really hate driving along and then needing to be extra careful when you see a family riding their bikes down a fast moving country road and then when you are driving around the country lanes around where I'm from you seen theses totally think townies riding there bikes around the lanes like they are in town and not thinking that the lane are on is a single lane road that two cars couldn't pass each other and when you come to a corner you should get off the bike and walk on the side of the road that an on coming car see you so that they can slow down to pass you.

But oh no because you are a push biker you know more than any one else.

Frank sorry if this sounds personal but I'm guessing you haven't ever ridden a push bike around the country lanes of the UK...

[COLOR="purple"]first, wanna make sure I understand what push bikes are. meaning non-motorized bicycle? pedal bicycles?

*** please read my post carefully. I wrote the damage done to the road and others is LOW. Yes, there are idiots on bicycles but the % of idiots in cars is much greater. The heaviest bicycle/cyclist could never do the damage of the lightest car on the roads or others. Just an impossibility. Now, if Down Hill Biking is illegal and not part of the law of the road then those breaking the law should be punished to the full extent of the law. As should motorist who break the law.

Um, I would love to see that published fact of 25 UKers killed by cyclist/year/decade/history??? I cant find any deaths let alone that large a number... but I may not be using a good google phrase. And of course NOT. I would NOT like to be hit by any twat at all.

I did find this from the WHO:[/COLOR]

Europe - In 1995, according to a 1998 World Health Organization Press Release WHO/57 , two million traffic accidents resulted in 120,000 deaths and 2.5 million injured people in the whole European region. One in every three road traffic deaths involved people younger than 25 years of age. Pedestrians and bicyclists were particularly vulnerable groups, making up 45% of all road deaths in the United Kingdom. In Hungary, the proportion was even higher, over 50%, but in most Western European countries it was substantially lower (17% in France, 20% in Germany and around 30% in Denmark and the Netherlands). In motorized traffic the highest-risk group was motorcyclists, with a death rate ten times higher than for car occupants, and an injury rate six times higher than that of car occupants.

[COLOR="purple"]pretty amazing stuff here: International Injury Fatality Statistics If I am reading the chart correctly it seems that ROAD TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS ranks much higher than WAR...

and please refrain from calling bikes silly. They are one of the greatest inventions ever created

(Bicycle voted as best invention
For the second year running, the bicycle has won this national survey of the people's favourite inventions.
Professor Wolff's praise of the bicycle followed a vote prompted by this year's Reith Lectures, 'The Trumph of Technology'. Out of over 4,500 votes cast, the bicycle won more than half (59%).
People chose the bicycle for its:
simplicity of design
universal use
because its an ecologically sound means of transport
Visit the BCC website for more information about other innovations that featured in this survey, and the Reith Lectures: 'The Triumph of Technology'. London Cycling Campaign - Bicycle voted as best invention )

and used by zillions of people around the world helping to make for a greener world. The same saying goes for guns right. There is no bad gun just bad people who use guns... same for cars and bikes.[/COLOR]

I really hate driving along and then needing to be extra careful when you see a family riding their bikes down a fast moving country road and then when you are driving around the country lanes around where I'm from you seen theses totally think townies riding there bikes around the lanes like they are in town and not thinking that the lane are on is a single lane road that two cars couldn't pass each other and when you come to a corner you should get off the bike and walk on the side of the road that an on coming car see you so that they can slow down to pass you.

But oh no because you are a push biker you know more than any one else.

[COLOR="Purple"]Also, hope this isnt taken personal but what you just wrote gives the impression that you not only dont know the rules of the road, unless it is very different in the UK vs USA... Just because you HATE something doesnt make you CORRECT! I would like to see a regulation where cyclist should get off the road for your pleasure... and haste...

Usually, but NOT always, cyclist know the rules of the road much better than motorist as it it they who will more likely die in a crash but most motorist HATE being extra careful with the rules.

and you are correct. I have NOT ridden a bicycle around those types of roads but if one does follow the rules of the road and not a silly twit then all can share the road as is the usual law.

btw, I never hate [/COLOR]

[marshlander]

first, wanna make sure I understand what push bikes are. meaning non-motorized bicycle? pedal bicycles?

Yes, Frank, push bike = pedal bicycle.

Anyone who lives in a rural area should be thoroughly familiar with the likely hazards on the roads and should drive accordingly. If you are worried about meeting something or someone coming round a blind bend you are simply driving too fast. Here, in this part of rural Norfolk I am just as likely to round a bend to be confronted by equestrians, or even the man who drives a pony and trap, as by cyclists or pedestrians and it only makes sense to drive at a speed whereby I can stop or slow down down as necessary. In the more wooded parts of the county, for example Thetford Forest, there are further hazards of deer, muntjack, rabbits, foxes and so on. Muntjack and rabbits have notoriously poor road sense and if you've ever had a kamikaze deer bound into the road in front of your car you don't forget that in a hurry!

I took a "defensive driving" course a few years ago and the police instructor who was with me in the car said that it is better to stray on to the outside of a bend on a single track road, because you can see further ahead and have a few moments more in which to stop if necessary.

[sox-and-the-city]

Right, to prevent any further argument i think we can ALL agree that you're all wrong and i'm right for not getting involved. Because i'm always right about everything, since 1999. That's right. A whole decade of being omniscient. It's both a blessing and a curse. Like Spiderman, but gayer (if at all possible).

So there :tongue::tongue::tongue:

The person below me wishes they were as cool as me.

[fjp999]

[COLOR="Purple"]Well, since it was recently decided that time no longer exist

And sox aka Al-'aleem has made it clear that no one else even exists at all thus we have no need for time existing or not...

I would still love to see the gas peddlers put up their factoids OR it is decided that push bikers do know it all *if that is alright with sox

oh, and I just made an interesting correlation... It seems rather apropos that the deaths from ROAD TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS outnumber WAR as most modern wars (minus the religious wars) are for OIL to run gas peddlers ... and it would be really horrible if WAR for oil outnumbered deaths by gas peddlers

TRUE *if ya will just let me exist I will be happy

The person below me will do more to end WARS for oil.[/COLOR]

[sox-and-the-city]

Calm down dear, it's just perforce supremacy...

I didn't say noone else exists, just that noone is right if they disagree with me, because i'm always right about everything.

But yes, when i am elected undisputed ruler of the universe people will be FAR too busy worshipping me to war over icky stuff like oil. Instead they will war over who gets to worship me first.

And of course you may live, dearest Frank. If you're extra nice i might even give you a country to lord it over

The person below me wants to organise my inagural parade for when i am elected undisputed ruler of the universe. Don't forget the matching ponies!!

[fjp999]

Calm down dear, it's just perforce supremacy...

I didn't say noone else exists, just that noone is right if they disagree with me, because i'm always right about everything.

But yes, when i am elected undisputed ruler of the universe people will be FAR too busy worshipping me to war over icky stuff like oil. Instead they will war over who gets to worship me first.

And of course you may live, dearest Frank. If you're extra nice i might even give you a country to lord it over

The person below me wants to organise my inagural parade for when i am elected undisputed ruler of the universe. Don't forget the matching ponies!!

[COLOR="Purple"]*honestly I wasnt getting my panties in a bunch just making sure I still exist

Can I ask how many SEXretaries this position brings with lord of a small country? And just how nice I gotta be - because I LOVE being really nice

FALSE will leave that up to someone really talented with ponies

The person below me is pretty damn excited about the future under a SATC rule [/COLOR]