12-21-2015, 02:12 AM
I'm mostly asking out of curiosity, though I must admit I feel strange in that for all the horror stories of growing up I encounter on the net, that in 15 years in which not a single year passed that I didn't encounter someone describing terrible abuse and other horrors growing up I've only recall one (here on GS) who ever said they'd been a runaway or throwaway (not counting those who were only out for a couple of nights or had another home to go to so weren't on the streets).
The first time as a runaway I joined with several others in the big city, and found many of them had a circuit of cities they roamed. It's rather complicated to explain, but the point is that there were many of them. And I've come across stats that say there's about a million kids on their own on the streets at any given time and roughly 2 million runaway each year in the US (this last includes those that go back home fast, assuming that's an option for them, but still), and given that the number of kids 12-17 in the US is in the tens of millions (at least for my age, and while it was higher for previous generations, I believe they had more kids on the streets as well--the late 60s and early 70s were infamous for it), that's comparable to kids the same age known to be sorely abused at home in which many people on the net talk about in their adult years in recovering from it. Of course, other countries add even more people who may come from such a background.
I can't imagine it's the degradation that silences them given that I've encountered enough online who talked about sexual abuse AND being a prostitute (as an adult), and not all runaways/throwaways resort to turning tricks (if so many weren't kidnapped and enslaved for that purpose then I'd think it would be less than there is).
The cynical part of me says that virtually no one will admit to it because it has a bad rep, like it's something a bad kid does on one's own who deserves what they get while other victims of abuse are seen as people deserving of sympathy (never mind that most run/throwaways were abused at home). I hope that's not the reason as that's just sad to me. But the alternatives (that most die or wind up imprisoned or otherwise in lives where they don't share the same luxury of time as I have) is even more disturbing to me (especially when I wonder whatever happened to the kids I used to know.)
And as someone who has volunteered with the homeless, I've seen a surprising number of homeless adults with iphones and even laptops that they use to surf the net. Which also makes me wonder, how have iphones and social media changed how runaways operate? Anyone know? :confused: (I won't ask how you know, I'll just be glad for an answer.)
Btw, I don't need details (though I don't mind them), I'd just like to know that there are other survivors who get OL but choose not to dwell on it (or at least talk about it). I do recall that many of the kids I mixed with who ran away or were thrown out of their homes were gay/lesbian (heck, that includes me, but that didn't have anything to do with why I ran) and it sounds like that's still the case.
Contacting me by PM is also fine, and I know very well that the laws and such for dealing with kids on the street suck (which is why I don't volunteer with organizations helping runaways, who are in a different boat from most adult homeless, as I know I'd probably end up breaking the law as well as the rules of the organization to help someone if I did as well as get frustrated about those I couldn't help--and "hardcore" runaways wouldn't trust any such organization anyway, at least not more than once).
Also, it's not like I'm wounded by it, I genuinely am asking out of curiosity (though I do worry about other street kids I used to know), and an author interviewed me for a story he's doing featuring runaways/throwaways, but I couldn't tell him how social media and iphones have changed things today. One way I can make myself feel better is remembering when I was a kid on the streets to contrast with all I have and enjoy now, it always makes me feel a little better, and often a lot better. mile:
The first time as a runaway I joined with several others in the big city, and found many of them had a circuit of cities they roamed. It's rather complicated to explain, but the point is that there were many of them. And I've come across stats that say there's about a million kids on their own on the streets at any given time and roughly 2 million runaway each year in the US (this last includes those that go back home fast, assuming that's an option for them, but still), and given that the number of kids 12-17 in the US is in the tens of millions (at least for my age, and while it was higher for previous generations, I believe they had more kids on the streets as well--the late 60s and early 70s were infamous for it), that's comparable to kids the same age known to be sorely abused at home in which many people on the net talk about in their adult years in recovering from it. Of course, other countries add even more people who may come from such a background.
I can't imagine it's the degradation that silences them given that I've encountered enough online who talked about sexual abuse AND being a prostitute (as an adult), and not all runaways/throwaways resort to turning tricks (if so many weren't kidnapped and enslaved for that purpose then I'd think it would be less than there is).
The cynical part of me says that virtually no one will admit to it because it has a bad rep, like it's something a bad kid does on one's own who deserves what they get while other victims of abuse are seen as people deserving of sympathy (never mind that most run/throwaways were abused at home). I hope that's not the reason as that's just sad to me. But the alternatives (that most die or wind up imprisoned or otherwise in lives where they don't share the same luxury of time as I have) is even more disturbing to me (especially when I wonder whatever happened to the kids I used to know.)
And as someone who has volunteered with the homeless, I've seen a surprising number of homeless adults with iphones and even laptops that they use to surf the net. Which also makes me wonder, how have iphones and social media changed how runaways operate? Anyone know? :confused: (I won't ask how you know, I'll just be glad for an answer.)
Btw, I don't need details (though I don't mind them), I'd just like to know that there are other survivors who get OL but choose not to dwell on it (or at least talk about it). I do recall that many of the kids I mixed with who ran away or were thrown out of their homes were gay/lesbian (heck, that includes me, but that didn't have anything to do with why I ran) and it sounds like that's still the case.
Contacting me by PM is also fine, and I know very well that the laws and such for dealing with kids on the street suck (which is why I don't volunteer with organizations helping runaways, who are in a different boat from most adult homeless, as I know I'd probably end up breaking the law as well as the rules of the organization to help someone if I did as well as get frustrated about those I couldn't help--and "hardcore" runaways wouldn't trust any such organization anyway, at least not more than once).
Also, it's not like I'm wounded by it, I genuinely am asking out of curiosity (though I do worry about other street kids I used to know), and an author interviewed me for a story he's doing featuring runaways/throwaways, but I couldn't tell him how social media and iphones have changed things today. One way I can make myself feel better is remembering when I was a kid on the streets to contrast with all I have and enjoy now, it always makes me feel a little better, and often a lot better. mile: