The right wing has spent the better part of 30 years trying to frame Hillary Clinton as a criminal...and now the Bernie Fans have joined them...
Well...if I find myself in bed with the tea baggers and tin foil Alex Jones crowd..I know I got in the wrong fucking bed.
Their smear campaign has payed off though....but I refuse to say this election is insane. It isn't.
Hillary Clinton will appoint Supreme Court Justices that will uphold the things I believe in..and she is uniquely qualified for the job, I don't "love "her...but I like her just fine....
As a gay man who has worked hard to open doors for people behind me..I am disgusted by how many young gay men don't give a fuck about the people behind them. Supreme Court Justices appointed by Trump could last your entire lives..and fuck over generations to come....
She isn't a saint..but she isn't anything at all like she is being portrayed . I believe the Pulitzer Prize winning Politifact.....NOT Brietbart News..and Faux..and Alex Jones....
08-23-2016, 06:31 AM (Edited 08-23-2016, 06:37 AM by LJay.)
East, I say the election is insane because I have never seen so many people at rallies thinking that they are going to restore the 1950's or even the 1940's by electing a man with no political experience, no diplomatic experience, a habit of using bankruptcy as a business technique, and a tongue that will say anything to get a crowd going, no matter who it insults.
I agree that the wingnuts have been going after Hillary for decades. I also agree that the Supreme Court is a core issue here. I feel that Trump would be manipulated into appointing some terrible choices and that the Republicans would confirm them for mere spite. Trump's latest flip flop in tone is simply evidence that he is supremely capable of changing his colors to get approval. I want to know what person of color would vote for a man who builds an apartment building and then sends the less than desirable tenants around the corner to another address.. That is wrong. Sorry, Donnie, the election is about governing, not just winning. You have to do stuff after you are elected and you don't know how to do those things.
that's democracy for you. in murrica, you're granted that opportunity to vote. at the end of the day, you can have meaningful discussions on the two leading candidates and you decide who you want to vote for. that's your right...there is no wrong or right vote. vote however you want to...
but if you abstain from voting, don't complain too much about the election results because imho that's quite hypocritical. since I was 18, I've always voted. sometimes the candidate I voted for won and sometimes not; but im glad I voted.
East Wrote:As a gay man who has worked hard to open doors for people behind me..I am disgusted by how many young gay men don't give a fuck about the people behind them. Supreme Court Justices appointed by Trump could last your entire lives..and fuck over generations to come....
That is what this election boils down to for me. That's why I don't understand why people aren't scared of a Trump presidency, that is why I don't understand democrats abandoning their party.
I care a lot about the future and I try to be very aware of how I'm impacting that - that is why I registered with the Green Party once I was old enough to. And I vote green not as a protest of because I'm angry, but because I agree with their ideals. But in my mind, the goal of the greens right now is not to get a president in power, it's to continue to build up the green presence on the lower levels.
I'm young, I haven't been through many presidential elections. But I always vote locally and I care very much about the community I live in. I don't fully understand politics or have the long term view of it some of you guys do, or the life experience to know the facts vs lies about Clinton.
What I do know that we should never take for granted what was built before, or ignore our responsibility to maintain it and add to it. A Supreme Court justice is a big deal and I don't get how anyone who actually believes in what the Green Party is about, or what Bernie Sanders wa saying, would ever want to risk that power falling into the hands of a person like Trump or those that are supporting him.
Emiliano Wrote:That is what this election boils down to for me. That's why I don't understand why people aren't scared of a Trump presidency, that is why I don't understand democrats abandoning their party.
I care a lot about the future and I try to be very aware of how I'm impacting that - that is why I registered with the Green Party once I was old enough to. And I vote green not as a protest of because I'm angry, but because I agree with their ideals. But in my mind, the goal of the greens right now is not to get a president in power, it's to continue to build up the green presence on the lower levels.
I'm young, I haven't been through many presidential elections. But I always vote locally and I care very much about the community I live in. I don't fully understand politics or have the long term view of it some of you guys do, or the life experience to know the facts vs lies about Clinton.
What I do know that we should never take for granted what was built before, or ignore our responsibility to maintain it and add to it. A Supreme Court justice is a big deal and I don't get how anyone who actually believes in what the Green Party is about, or what Bernie Sanders wa saying, would ever want to risk that power falling into the hands of a person like Trump or those that are supporting him.
Back in 2008...I had my Nader/Gonzalez Bumper Sticker ready..I bought it online. I liked Dennis Kucinich then for the same reasons people like Bernie..and I thought that Clinton and Obama were "OK" but both too conservative. John Edwards was a complete no go for me....so when Kucinich dropped out.....I was happy to vote my conscience....
The thing is...in the end..my conscience would not allow a possible McCain/Palin Presidency and the risk of an even more conservative court so I abandoned my dream and got behind Obama....I had to plug my nose to vote for him. The second time..happily...no nose plugging. I voted for Obama very willingly and was happy to do so.
You are so right about local level politicians. It all starts there. In San Francisco..Gavin Newsom and Matt Gonzalez had a run off ..one was Green and the other Democrat,..very close race.
I got an invite to go to the meeting from Bernie Fans to start on the local level and I was so happy...almost went...but then he started in on Hillary Clinton. I have heard ENOUGH..so tired of it. The standard that they are holding her to is INSANE....
My way or the highway did not work out so well for the tea party or Republicans..so now Democrats are going to do the same thing? Compromise is a MUST in a Democracy. No one should get everything they want.
The problems with Hillary:
She rigged the Democratic party - and the Republicans rig with voter ID laws, and both parties rig with gerrymandering. It's not like Hillary stuffed the ballots. Hillary still won more pledged delegates than Bernie. We can do away with super delegates later.
She's backed by Wall ST - well fuck it, I'll take Buffet and Bloomberg over the Koch brothers any day.
She's backed by big oil - and Trump thinks global warming was a myth conjured up by the Chinese.
She lied about an assassination attempt in Bosnia - at least she doesn't hire assassins, I'm more disturbed with Trump telling his crowd to attack protesters.
She's responsible for Benghazi!!!111!!! - no, just no.
She deleted her classified emails - and Trump asked the Russians to hack into them.
I shouldn't vote for her because she's the lesser evil - well let me tell you the *nice* things about her that are the reasons I am going to vote for her:
She wants to add a higher tax bracket for the super rich, in both income and capital gains, so that they will be paying a fairer share
She wants to invest hundreds of billions of dollars in Pell grants for college students
She wants to make community college free
She wants to raise the minimum wage
I'm backing the Notorious HRC:
Yes, [MENTION=22821]NativeSon[/MENTION], you will pay for my college, your only way of stopping that is to vote Trump (or give him the vote by opting out or going third party). Enjoy.
Trump or Hillary as President, who else is petrified?
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