"The Oppressed are the TRUE Bigots" argument

[TonyAndonuts]

So I'm on Google, see they're promoting this video , and decide to click and check it out. And boy...the comment section is a delight!
Seriously though, sometimes I wonder if the world really has been progressing or if I've just been living in a safe bubble away from reality.

Now looking at the comments, I see this kind of argument a lot and I seriously don't understand it. It's the whole "People angry at intolerant bigots are the TRUE bigots." argument. Oh, sorry I shouldn't call them bigots. They're just people with different opinions... An opinion that oppresses a group of people. And if I can't accept this opinion that LGBT people shouldn't be able to enjoy the same rights as everyone else, then apparently I'M the bad and intolerant person. I totally get that we should understand and accept other's differing opinions, but we're not talking about something trivial like some guy didn't like Captain America Civil War while I loved it, we're talking about an opinion that negatively affects the way a group of people live their lives. Is it really that shocking to be upset at people that have an opinion that holds others down?

[Genersis]

It's difficult to argue with such people.

There really isn't much point. No one likes to be called a bigot(which tends to be why they view the discriminated party as the bigots), so I find it very rarely helps a conversation to use such language.
That's just my experience though.

[matty7]

its human nature to oppress the minority - I doubt if it will ever change in my lifetime ....its a nice sentiment with Ban ki-moon Secretary-General of the United Nations holding a poster ...but then he goes off and has a lovely chat and dinner with Putin knowing full well his feelings on LGBT issues - if he's genuine then refuse to meet him as keeping Putin as an friend hasn't worked so far - his policy's are costing LGBT lives right now in Russia

[Pix]

In a nutshell, they don't see the oppression. It's not happening to them, so to them it doesn't exist. An old saying related to this psychological process is "The rich man in his fur coat can't understand why the poor man without a fur coast is shivering."

They also tend to have a skewed view of reality, one in which the oppressed are spoiled rotten while the majority are being unduly punished, even though the majority dominates the political, legal, economic, and social spheres. I may give some examples later.

At least in real life, I've noticed that most who do this are losers. Their lives aren't all that they should be and they look to someone else to blame. For example, if their mediocre grades weren't enough to get them into an Ivy League college, then they blame "quotas" for why they were denied (btw, I know someone who used to work in that area, and he's not politically correct--polite and fair, yes, but not to mince words for any reason--and his view on people who blame quotas for their not getting in is scathing).

It also gives them someone to feel better than by putting those others down (just as oppressed minorities tend to turn on other minorities or people in their own community, as they feel it elevates themselves to do so), and are generally the kind that their favored group (be it religious, racial, etc) looks down on, and such people who advocate that they are superior by their race or religion or what have you would find themselves being picked last (and not at all) to represent the race or religion or whatever by the majority, both for their personal traits as well as for their (lack of) accomplishments.

I even see this in my own family. Generally speaking, they don't really care about the plight of others, focused on their own problems, but that apathy also means that they don't go out of their way to be obnoxious or make life harder for someone else. They also tend to feel satisfied with their own lives. While I'm sure plenty of them voted to make gay marriage illegal (note, this IS an assumption on my part, they've never said, and I've never asked), but that's probably because they make the common mistake that voting is about personal preferences rather than legal ramifications (IOW, they misunderstood the question as "would you consider marrying someone of the same gender" as they don't really THINK before "thinking"), but only ONE has been obnoxious about it...my aunt who is on her third husband with children by each one. This (among other things I could mention) obviously makes her feel very insecure, and she makes up for it by putting down gays, and perhaps in even trying to make herself feel safer on an instinctual level by making gays the preferred targets...though all it does it make the rest of my family think people in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones, and it's something of a vicious circle.

As for all the people online, I don't know (and don't really care). Maybe they're just obnoxious assholes always slinging bile who have free time on their hands and so sling some extra bile our way, but I'd think even in that case they wouldn't feel "oppressed," and I'd bet money that most of them, if exposed in real life, would be like those I've met in real life already, all with sad lives who feel that their lives aren't all that they should be and looking for someone else to blame or at least feel superior to. Either that, or trying to exploit those sad people to send them money to "fight the gay agenda" (or equivalent) by profiting from their raging insecurities, or at least getting their vote.

[TonyAndonuts]

Now that I think about it...what the hell is the "gay agenda" anyway? I hear the term tossed around a lot almost always negatively, but what even is it?