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In Star Trek do you think Earth's countries are at peace?
#1
It's the future, and they are always exploring other worlds. We see them dealing with new types of people and lifeforms, and seeing their customs and traditions. However we never hear much about earth. The council is made up of people from various planets that have reached a certain level of technology.

I just wonder if Earth is at peace with itself, or if we still have stupid wars. Makes you wonder if we ever do reach a level of technology where we meet other forms of life forms will we come together as a planet or will we be not only at war with ourselves but possibly with other planets?

Edit: I just started Deep Space 9, and mid season 1. I've watched everything prior besides the movies. Saving them all after I watch all the series.
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#2
Yes. By Trek time, Earth is supposed to be a unified, utopian society where they've solved all of humanities problems with religion, boarders, race, money, hunger, sickness (for the most part), ...

Everything is civil, fair, and domesticated. By Captain Piccard's time, even the weather is controlled to be idealistic, and it only rains at night.
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#3
Borg69 Wrote:it only rains at night.

How is that ideal? I love a good thunder storm!!!
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#4
Yes. The Star Trek universe is based on an alternate timeline where Earth had a devastating world war that nearly destroyed the entire planet, resulting in the survivors rebuilding civilization based on peace in the hopes of never endangering themselves again.
However in Star Trek Enterprise, there is a plot where xenophobia rises and a lot of humans have a deep hatred of aliens; Vulcans also weren't the most accepting in the Enterprise series. So, in Enterprise, Earth society was still transitioning to utopia.
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Radbot42 Wrote:How is that ideal? I love a good thunder storm!!!

Exactly. Whose dopey idea was that?

#starwarsexcepttheprequeleraforever
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#6
Since I see national pride displayed by multiple characters (I believe even Picard has done this), I would guess that there may be something like sports rivalries, and going by other things said, also science competitions and other ways to compete. Certainly, officers seem to regularly compete against each other for rank and glory (with varying ethics), and they can also be downright petty and conspiratorial.

Heck, a scary thought could be Section 31 get rid of anyone (from conspiring to make their life more difficult to sending them far away to even mind control, blackmail, and assassination) who might upset the pot, the ultimate secret police. Here, Section 31 in its own words:




We do see that humanity easily loses utopian sensibilities. As Sisko once said, "It's easy to be an angel in paradise." But once you take them out of paradise, they can become corrupt smugglers, murderous terrorists (though I must say I sympathized with the Maquis , not that I think everything they did was good), and Tasha (ST: NG, I think only in season 1) even reported how her lost colony devolved into "rape gangs" (that she had to evade as a child). And then Star Fleet also arranged for treachery, collateral damage, and even assassination of ambassadors in their war against the Dominion, with one officer saying, "In times of war, the law falls silent."
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#7
I think it's also worth noting that much of the holodecks, plays, arts, and such seem to revere the past, rarely showing anything past the 20th century (when most of the shows were made). Picard loved to play a detective in the 1930s, I believe, and that was common. Even Worf got into playing in Earth westerns in the holodeck (I think Troi played in a violent Western as well). When it did show the future, then it was as if there, that is enjoying a picnic or stroll rather than in any conflict.

Perhaps this is another way they sublimate violent conflict and remind people that it belongs in the past rather than present. And it could also show how much they revere their past (and thus their nationalities and ethnic origins).
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#8
Some interesting if disturbing thoughts about Star Trek....


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#10
Actually, there is an episode in TNG where the Q use a rogue tornado to murder two of their own, leaving behind a hapless orphan. So either natural weather patterns can still occur or Picard, who found it suspicious, is the only human alive (besides Kirk, possibly) who's capable of POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS.

Anyway, humanity is still far from from perfect even in Trek times. Here's another one:

Data: "Judging a being by its physical appearance is the last major human prejudice, Wesley." -- "Manhunt", Stardate 42859.2

Sounds so familiar.
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