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This is how I cope with loneliness
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I felt lonely last night while laying in bed. So, I started fantasizing about the man of my dreams. I acted as if I already have him, acted as if he was already laying next to me in bed. I wrapped my arms around my pillow pretending it was him, and in the moment my life felt complete... the empty void in my heart finally filled after all those years of loneliness.

Suddenly I started to feel a tingly, fuzzy sensation in my chest. Not only was it fuzzy, but soft and tender as well. The sensations seem to come in waves throughout the cuddling session with my imaginary boyfriend, and they would only intensify as time went on. However, the strongest hit can be felt during the moment my imaginary boyfriend pecks me on the cheek with his sweet lips. I felt so lovey-dovey, I wanted to cry. Something that I've never felt before in my life. Everything was coming alive... the feelings running deep. Yes, my dick did got semi-hard from the experience (apart with some precum oozing out, too), but it didn't feel like normal arousal at all, since I didn't have any primal sexual desire other than to cuddle with the man of my dreams.

But as soon as I snap back to reality, I realized that everything was just in my head. And it breaks my heart. Sad Wish I can fulfill the real thing someday.
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#2
Have you done any online dating or meetups or social groups?
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Confuzzled4 Wrote:Have you done any online dating or meetups or social groups?

I've talked to a few guys on social media, but we've never actually made plans to meet in real life. Things never expanded outside of "friendship". I guess we just weren't each other's type.

Yes, I did have ONE online boyfriend for a time, but I broke up with him due to complications in the relationship. Haven't met him irl yet, either.

Although at this point my heart is craving for real love. Not sure if I should give online dating another shot, or whether I should just take a little break from dating and work on myself first, before I go out in to the world and meet guys.
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#4
Gay Man in a Monogamous Gay Relationship ?
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#5
deephiance Wrote:Gay Man in a Monogamous Gay Relationship ?

That's old.

I haven't updated my status yet since breaking up with boyfriend, lol.

But I will do it now. Thanks for the reminder.
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MisterLonely Wrote:I felt lonely last night while laying in bed. So, I started fantasizing about the man of my dreams. .... But as soon as I snap back to reality, I realized that everything was just in my head. And it breaks my heart. Sad Wish I can fulfill the real thing someday.

There are so many levels to this. I don't know you and can't really talk about you, so I'm going to talk about me.

Although I grew up knowing I was a cock-sucking faggot (just a few of the degrading words I'd heard), I didn't grow up knowing I was "gay" (see the URL in my signature). I didn't know that I was a part of a socially repressed minority. Nor did I know how HUGE a minority that actually is. True enough, I'd had some sexual experiences as a kid and teenager... nothing beyond vanilla but it felt good and I definitely wanted more. But the thing about this was, these were not encounters with random strangers from some app (or whatever). They were with boys I knew, I knew their parents, their parents knew my parents and so on. Moreover... the first time I felt like I had fallen in love was WITH A BOY... we were in Fifth grade so I guess I would have been about 10 or 11 years old. This was a boy I'd known pretty much all my life but it just so happened that one day we were spending time together going for a walk and he said something that just opened my heart. He was talking about "beauty". He was talking about how beautiful the world was and, I don't know how to explain it except to say that all of a sudden my heart just broke wide open. I knew I "loved" this boy. .... He was NOT (by the way) one of the boys I'd fooled around with. I never DID "fool around" with him... but I had a hard crush on him that lasted for many years.

I felt very depressed through much of my teen years because I felt that, being gay, I could NEVER be happy. Never have the kind of relationship that I wanted. I wasn't exactly sure even what that *was* or *would be like*... but I could see how there was no way I could have it with the boy I was in love with. Not only was he straight (I later learned he may not have been quite as straight as I thought... but that's a whole other story), the reality was we lived in a world that was extremely homophobic. Even if, miracle of miracles, he HAD felt the same way about me as I had about him (he didn't), any chance of our relationship growing and flourishing within that social context was practically zero. EVERYONE would be against us. And, yeah, sure, one can idealize that "love will win"... but the truth is? It often does not. I grew up believing I would *always* be alone.

When I went off to college (this would have been a bit over half a century ago, the second semester was in 1967), within a relatively short time I became "introduced" into the "gay scene" in Chicago (of that era). One of the things that struck me about this was that sex was relatively available. But what was NOT available was "intimacy". Yes, many gay guys had friends, but quite often, they were not sexual with their friends. A few (very few) had boyfriends.. but often those relationships were (or seemed to me to be) far from "ideal". In fact, they were often quite strained. I saw a lot of conflicts. (There are a lot of reasons for this mostly that gay men, especially of that era, didn't know HOW to have a relationship within the context of a homophobic society.) But most importantly what I found was that for the most part I was not drawn to these "gay" men. TBH, I really didn't like most of them. Most of them (it seemed to me) were carrying a shit-load of repressed rage... mostly at the fact they had grown up gay. Many of them felt shame around their sexuality... and so these two things, shame and rage, got mixed up together in such a way that they often acted out their rage on one another in sexual ways. It was complicated and it would take too long to write out all of what I felt about most gay men (and there was, without a doubt, a large portion of internalized homophobia at work here myself... but it wasn't ALL that). The point is that I felt I did not FIT into the 'gay world' at all.

So... there I was. Not only lonely on a personal level, but lonely in a social way. I *did* have friends. In fact, I had a 'sort of' boyfriend. He was a bisexual guy that I'd met in college. We actually ended up living together... well... me and his girlfriend in a 'sort of' ménage à trois. It was complicated to say the least. At least we were friends and we were also sexual... but it was not the "man of my dreams" relationship you, OP, are talking about.

I did not find that "man of my dreams" relationship for MANY years. Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying your life will be anything at all like mine... I'm sure it will not. What I'm saying is that FOR ME, it took DECADES for me to find that man who loved me the way I loved him. His name was David and we lived together for seven years before he died of a brain tumor.

Yeah. He died and once again I was totally alone. Not alone in the sense that i had no friends. I had lots of friends. I had lots of support to get through this tragedy. But the point is, that man I'd always longed for... he'd existed for a few years and then he was just GONE.

But then, strangely enough, another man showed up (rather suddenly and totally unexpectedly). This man, Thomas, was about as opposite of David as you could get. I'll not even try to describe these two men... but I will say that my relationship with Thomas was FAR more passionate than my relationship with David had ever been. It was the most intense sexual and romantic passion I'd ever felt in my life. Our relationship lasted for five years and, during that time, little by little, Thomas went insane. A lot of this was due to his being HIV+... I was and remain negative... It is very complicated and I could write a whole novel about what happened but suffice it to say, little by little, this man that I loved and felt such passion for and with... he slipped into a kind of insanity from which there was not coming back.

To me, this was even WORSE than David's death. He was still "alive"... still in my life... but I could no longer *relate* to him. He was in another world. Thomas also passed away in 2010... but we'd been living apart since 2001.

From 2001 to September 2014 I not only did I not date, I did not have sex in any way shape or form with anyone. I had my job, my friends, my working out at the gym, my online participation in forums like this... that was my life. I seldom even went out socially with friends. I preferred to stay at home alone. I watched movies, read books, beat off to porn... that was my life.

Then, weirdly enough, I got propositioned to give this 'kid' (an 18yo virgin... a student at the university here where I live) to give him a BJ. I resisted this at first. I thought it was nuts. But, eventually, I relented. This was the first time I had any sexual contact with anyone in a VERY long time. It was nice. I liked it. We actually got together twice before he disappeared. Another year went by and nothing. Then, last summer, I began to 'hook up' on occasion with guys... most of them much younger than I. (So far they've ranged in age from 18 to 63 with the vast majority in the 22 to 32 area.) Some of these have been more than once with the same guy... but these have all been strictly 'sexual' experiences. Well, maybe some possibility of there being an FWB... but nothing more.

Why? Because I'm not sure I can allow myself to HAVE more.... try to understand what is going on here. I have been GRIEVING the loss of my lovers for nearly a decade and a half. I can now *allow* myself to have sexual contact with guys/men where there is a mutual attraction. Sites like silverdaddies.com and apps such as Hornet and Grindr make this possible for me.

But you know what's happened? For YEARS... all during the time I was being celibate (except for jerking off) I did NOT feel lonely. I felt fine! I was more or less happy with my life as it was. I have one good friend who was often talking about how lonely she felt... and I could understand her feeling that way but I didn't share that feeling. I felt JUST FINE living on my own. Happy about it, even.

But now? NOW that I've opened that 'Pandora's box' of sexuality... and *potential* intimacy? NOW I FEEL LONELY. I've had some VERY intensely passionate sexual experiences recently... something I hadn't allowed myself for a very long time... and that's all well and good. But NOW it has awakened this longing inside for that "man of my dreams" you're talking about OP...

And for me? That Longing is tinged with the sadness of having HAD those men... and having LOST them. Tinged not only with LONGING but with GRIEF for what once was but is no more.

Worse, I'm not at all sure I *CAN* allow myself to have that again. IDK if this makes sense but it's complicated. On one level I long for it... but on another level, I *know* (from first-hand experience) how DIFFICULT relationships... even relationships with "the man of my dreams" can be. Relationships take a shit load of work... because intimacy brings up stuff within us that we didn't even know was there. ...

I'm horrified at the thought of 'falling in love' with someone and THEN not having it work out... I'm terrified of allowing myself to feel like I've opened myself up and let someone in, only to have them disappear on me one way or another. I know I'm not an easy person to live with. I know I'm *not* "relationship material" in a lot of ways. Maybe they'll get tired of me. Maybe they'll find someone else. Maybe we won't work out sexually. Maybe they'll get sick and die... Whatever.

I know what LOSS feels like and you know what? As bad as the loneliness is?? The LOSS is worse. Especially now, at my age. It may be different when you're young and you feel like you have the rest of your life ahead of you. That's not the case here. MY "best years" are already gone. So far as having "the man of my dreams" to wrap my arms around (and he wrap his around me) and snuggle up with... and feel like we're growing into one another, becoming ONE THING? ... For me it is "been there, done that." And now... now... I'm alone. Totally and utterly alone.

Sorry if I've taken over your thread, OP... I probably shouldn't have written all this. Oversharing and all that.

Suffice it to say, I know what loneliness feels like. I'm sure most of us here do. It sucks. I guess if I have a point at all it's this: Finding "the man of your dreams" is NOT an end point. On the contrary. Once you find him ... assuming you ever do ... you'll find that is just a beginning. None of us know WHAT life is going to throw at us. Perhaps you'll find "the one" and you'll live happily ever after. Perhaps not. You're young. You SHOULD look... you should at least be open to the possibility. Only that openness *can* make it possible. That's one thing I've learned. But the openness isn't the same thing as the "longing". It's something else. IT'S BEING AVAILABLE EMOTIONALLY. I don't know how to explain that. It means being vulnerable, for sure, but I think it means more than that, too. You have to WANT him and you have to ACCEPT him FOR WHO AND WHAT HE IS.

This is the thing, I guess. THE biggest mistake I see young gay men make is WANTING the man they've found to BE "the man of their dreams."

That fantasy man doesn't exist except in your imagination. THE MAN IN FRONT OF YOU ... or the man in your arms ... is a real, live human being. He has his good points and bad, his strengths and weaknesses, his own dreams, his own fears, his own needs, his own insecurities... and you have to love him not only 'despite' all of them but BECAUSE of them. And he you as well.

That's what I mean by "being emotionally available".
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[MENTION=20947]MikeW[/MENTION] If you really write a novel, I will rush to buy it; I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people get touched.
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#8
It sounds like you're shutting yourself out to the world, you might want to work on yourself first. I had to do that, and I still haven't gotten back out there because my focus has been on employment. But work on yourself, it sounds like you're quite a sad person.
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#9
i feel the same and do the same. dream never meets the reality.
but I always dream my dream guy at home with only boxers and walking around. and hugging kissing etc... thats a way to escape from reality and i like it Smile
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MisterLonely Wrote:I felt lonely last night while laying in bed. So, I started fantasizing about the man of my dreams. I acted as if I already have him, acted as if he was already laying next to me in bed. I wrapped my arms around my pillow pretending it was him, and in the moment my life felt complete... the empty void in my heart finally filled after all those years of loneliness.

Suddenly I started to feel a tingly, fuzzy sensation in my chest. Not only was it fuzzy, but soft and tender as well. The sensations seem to come in waves throughout the cuddling session with my imaginary boyfriend, and they would only intensify as time went on. However, the strongest hit can be felt during the moment my imaginary boyfriend pecks me on the cheek with his sweet lips. I felt so lovey-dovey, I wanted to cry. Something that I've never felt before in my life. Everything was coming alive... the feelings running deep. Yes, my dick did got semi-hard from the experience (apart with some precum oozing out, too), but it didn't feel like normal arousal at all, since I didn't have any primal sexual desire other than to cuddle with the man of my dreams.

But as soon as I snap back to reality, I realized that everything was just in my head. And it breaks my heart. Sad Wish I can fulfill the real thing someday.

I think a lot of people feel the same way. Being gay, it does seem that it is harder to find yourself in a monogamous relationship. At any rate I don't think there's anything wrong with you other than you're putting yourself through much unneeded misery. A guy will come along at some point, we don't get to choose when that happens and I don't think anyone likes hearing that.

Aside from that nothing wrong with having an imagination and getting off. I know what you mean there is a difference between say the man of your dreams, someone you're crushing on or whatever versus a primal sexual desire as you put it.... I guess you could compare it to watching porn versus sex with your boyfriend for comparison.

As far as working on yourself, everyone needs work. I need work, you need work, other people here need work. We're imperfect beings trying to be more perfect much like a dog chasing its tail. Understand and know that you aren't perfect and neither is the man of your dreams. I mean what if the man of your dreams...I don't know, picks his nose or something like that? I mean, hey, you never know. He might be a really awesome guy and then he's off in the corner picking out a big booger... Anyway, moot point. The thing to understand is that there's probably nothing wrong with you but I do believe that people need to hit a certain maturity before they can successfully embark on a relationship. I have a lot of thoughts about it but I can't tell you how to make a relationship work or where to find the guy of your dreams, all I can say is that it will happen but self loathing won't get you there and it requires a lot of effort and that neither of you throw the towel in over the first little thing that goes wrong.
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