I want to get married right now. Did anyone see the movie Mannequin maybe I'll steal a fake one and he'll turn out to be real, just hope he comes with a big1
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boxerdc Wrote:Marriage equality will pass in Washington DC.....
The problem is that whenever the District makes a law, it's got to be approved by congress, and we'll be in for a fight there. The opportunity is that if congress does nothing, then marriage equality becomes the de facto law of the land, and DOMA is dead.
I suspect that congress will do the usual grandstanding, and not much more, and the act will pass with little or no notice outside of the beltway.
I agree that congress is unlikely to do anything. The previous bill recognising marriages performed in other states was a test balloon which showed it was safe to proceed with full marriage equality.
I don't see how congress failing to veto the law makes a dent in DOMA. The federal government will not recognise those marriages and the states will be free not to do so either. These marriages will only be recognised by the districts courts and government and by any states that choose to.
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boxerdc Wrote:The District of Columbia is a Federal District, and our laws are not like states laws. If full marriage equality is granted here, it will affect all federal employees in all states. Once all federal employees have marriage equality the states will have a difficult time not allowing it for those who do not work for the government. When the District passes a law that will affect the nation, congress gets a chance to vote on it as well, and if they choose not to vote on it, it simply becomes the law of the land
I'm sorry I don't see why DC laws have legal effects beyond the district. DC recognises same-sex marriages performed in, say, Massachusetts, AFAIK that does not mean that same-sex marriages performed there on Federal employees are recognised. I'm confused.
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Is the DOMA going to be ammended by the Respect for Marriage Act of 2009, which was introduced in the 111th Congress by Representative Jerrold Nadler (D-NY)?
The Respect for Marriage Act (RMA), restores the rights of all lawfully married couples—including same-sex couples—to receive the benefits of marriage under federal law. The bill also provides same-sex couples with certainty that federal benefits and protections would flow from a valid marriage celebrated in a state where such marriages are legal, even if a couple moves or travels to another state.
By repealing Section 2, DOMA, the Respect for Marriage Act returns to traditional principles of comity and Full Faith and Credit. Under RMA, same-sex couples and their families would be eligible for important federal benefits and protections such as family and medical leave or Social Security spousal and survivors’ benefits, but the federal government could not grant state-level rights. The bill does not require states that have not yet enacted legal protections for same-sex couples to recognize a marriage. Nor does it obligate any person, state, locality, or religious organization to celebrate or license a marriage between two persons of the same sex. This legislation only requires the federal government to equally apply its policy of looking to the states in determining what legal relationships are eligible for federal benefits.
If this act is passed, would it help?
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Rychard that would certainly help, but sadly health care reform is pushing it onto the back burner. It will probably be taken up again sometime after the first of the year after congress gets back from its Christmas/Winter recess. That act would solve all of the problems the gay community has under the current DOMA.
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It's really scary. The people who tried to stop gay marriage in MA said they'd be back in 2012. I hope they all get flat tires and don't make it. Don't they have anything better to do? They were scared that by the time 2012 came around that it would be too late to take gay marriage away in MA because more people would accept it and not see anything wrong with it, well they were right because more people accept it.
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Marshlander, I think it will be enough for now, so that the federal government will be able to recognize marriages performed in the states like Massachusetts. As I see it the state by state strategy will not work completely because it would take about 50 years for a state like Mississippi or Utah to accept gay marriage. Eventually it will come down to the federal courts making a final decision, forcing equality on the states, like they did for interracial marriage back in the 70's. That is the only way I can see the U.S. getting full equality anytime soon. And with the current make-up of the United States Supreme Court I can see it passing should a marriage equality case reach them.
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I just think that in the US we have to make sure that Mitt Romney never gets elected President, isn't he too old anyways? I know you have to be 35 or older to be president, isn't he 65? It should be 35-65 then you're OUT, unless you're not Mitt Romney. I don't mind having an old (over 65) president just not and never him! He will do anything to get a federal ban on gay marriage.
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