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Why America makes me angry sometimes
#61
And you are correct on all that to the best of my knowledge.

I'm just receiving information that they have struck again. The vote on marriage equality in Maine yesterday seems to be going the same way as Prop 8 :mad:

I've just received this message from Reed Cowan, director of the new film "8:The Mormon Proposition":

Quote:It's four minutes past midnight where I am. And with nearly 70 percent of precincts reporting, it looks like marriage equality in Maine has been defeated by the efforts of the National Organization for Marriage. Our film shows in a concrete way the allegations that NOM is really a front group for the Mormon Church, who sees fighting gay marriage as a kind of holy war.
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#62
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#63
Maine is yet another California, but there was a sliver lining last night. R-71, the referendum to pass a Domestic Partnership law in Washington State passed, the voters of Kalamazoo, Michigan upheld a Anti-Discrimination ordinance by a wide margin. A lesbian is the leader going into a run-off election for the Mayor of Houston, Texas, and the city of Chapel Hill, North Carolina elected it's first openly gay mayor. So despite the devastating loss in Maine, there was some good.
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#64
Thanks. We could all do with more good news. Wink
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#65
8:The Mormon Proposition is trying to raise funds for a bigger publicity campaign than they planned ... apparently (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt).

If anyone would like to contribute (and get their name on the film credits Wink ) you can Chip In via PayPal.

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Most of the Mormons I've spoken to believe the greatest part of donated funds to publicise Prop 8 came from their fellows giving in a private capacity. Am I now doing the same thing, just on the other side ... I'm sure life was simpler once. :confused:

Anyway, even if you can't afford to support this independent film venture, maybe you'd be kind enough to spread the word among your friends in case they are willing and able. Facebook users might want to have a look at Incompatible Browser | Facebook

I'm sure that Andy, Card, or even the mysteriously MIA Spoty or Shadow will let me know if I've overstepped the bounds.
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#66
libertylove4 Wrote:The the Minority leader in the House of Representatives Rep. John Boehner is trying to kill a Hate Crimes bill and wants to submit a bill to protect christians instead he says "You are christian by birth, Homosexual by choice."

Christian by birth....that is funny. People who are truely religous believe in their religon because they have faith, not because their parents were. Religions aren't genes, with the exception of Levi's.
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#67
Quote: Originally Posted by libertylove4 [Image: viewpost.gif]
The the Minority leader in the House of Representatives Rep. John Boehner is trying to kill a Hate Crimes bill and wants to submit a bill to protect christians instead he says "You are christian by birth, Homosexual by choice

Surely this would exclude Catholics. Jews and Muslins etc from protection as well.Headscratch
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#68
Catholic support crucial to repeal of Maine same-sex 'marriage' law

This was taken from the CNA website today.

Portland, Maine, Nov 4, 2009 / 01:09 pm (CNA).- In midterm elections on Tuesday the voters of Maine repealed a law that legalized same-sex “marriage.” Scott Fish, Communications Director of Stand for Marriage Maine, told CNA that Catholic support was “very crucial” to the outcome.

“The Yes on 1 campaign,” Fish said, “had much support from Catholics statewide, working hand-in-hand with Evangelical churches throughout Maine, as well as other denominations.”

Despite a 3-to-1 deficit in fundraising, Fish said that “with 95 percent of precincts reporting, 52.90 percent voted yes on Question 1 and 47.10 percent voted no.” According to Fish, this means that “marriage in Maine law remains the union of one woman and one man.”

The vote in Maine reflects a nationwide trend, with voters rejecting the redefinition of marriage in 31 states.

Yesterday's vote was the result of Mainers exercising the People's Veto after the state legislature passed a bill recognizing same-sex “marriage” earlier this year and Gov. John Baldacci signed it into law in May.

The People's Veto ran on yesterday's ballot as Question 1, which read, "Do you want to reject the new law that lets same-sex couples marry and allows individuals and religious groups to refuse to perform these marriages?"

In a statement on the results of Question 1, Bishop Malone of the Diocese of Portland, Maine said he wanted “to thank the people of Maine for protecting and reaffirming their support for marriage as it has been understood for millenia by civilizations and religions around the world,” and that he is “thankful for those who engaged in sincere and civil discourse on the matter of such serious consequence to our society.”

Bishop Malone also stated that “respect and acceptance of all people regardless of sexual orientation is not a point of controversy – indeed, it is a teaching of the Church.”

Drawing his statement to a close Bishop Malone said, “while the Catholic Church will continue its commitment to work for the basic human rights to which all people are entitled, it remains devoted to preserving and strengthening the precious gift of marriage.”


It was not a landslide victory, just a swing of 3% could of changed the outcome of the vote.

Open confirmation that churches are joining forces to fight against same sex marriages.
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#69
I feel sick
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[COLOR="Purple"]At least we got the Health Care Bill passed in the House.

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