Quote:This leaves less room for practices, such as improvisation and ad libitum ornamentation, that are frequently heard in non-European art music and popular music.
Less room perhaps, but music of the Renaissance and Baroque (still falling under your "classical" definition) is riddled with extemporisation. During the twentieth century a number of composers also allowed the performers some latitude in contributing to a composition through improvised passages.
marshlander Wrote:Less room perhaps, but music of the Renaissance and Baroque (still falling under your "classical" definition) is riddled with extemporisation. During the twentieth century a number of composers also allowed the performers some latitude in contributing to a composition through improvised passages.
Yes, I imagine that is why the author of that article used such qualifiers as "norm", "largely", and "less" in that context. This is true. For the large part, even whithin those periods, the music was heavily notated, and it allowed for little improvisation compared to other forms of art music and popular music. You can compare it to American art music (typically jazz). For example, Gershwin's (who decends from both the European and American Art music traditions) area Summertime from his opera Porgy and Bess. It is the second most popularly covered song in history. You can see that there is a great deal of variation between these works, and this is the norm in Jazz music. Where as, in classical music, improvisation is far from being the norm. I hope you understand the differences now? They are not clear cut nor all that easy to follow.
Here is Dame Kiri Te Kanawa doing a rather formal version for Queen Elizabeth's II Golden Jubilee:
Here is Miles Davis' version from his 1958 album:
Here is Billie Holiday's recording:
Janis Joplin's version live in Stockholm, 1969:
and Leona Lewis singing Summertime on British Idle:
For some reason I have a nack for killing threads. I think it has to do with the fact that I have a true affection for argument and debate. Too bad, because I loved this thread.
I want to bring it back to life.
Here is one of the best pastoral areas ever in my opinion. It was writen by the German born, English composer, George Frederick Handel:
Ombra mai fu
And I want to include this fast, paced bit of fun too:
For some reason I have a nack for killing threads. I think it has to do with the fact that I have a true affection for argument and debate. Too bad, because I loved this thread.
I want to bring it back to life.
Here is one of the best pastoral areas ever in my opinion. It was writen by the German born, English composer, George Frederick Handel:
Ombra mai fu
And I want to include this fast, paced bit of fun too:
Johann Baptist Vanhal - Symphony in G minor (Bryan g2): I. Allegro moderato
A bit of classical trivia for you.
In circa 1784, Haydn, Dittersdorf, Mozart and Vanhal played String Quartets together. Haydn and Dittersdorf played the violins, Mozart the viola, and Vanhal on cello. The recorder of this event, the composer and tenor Michael Kelly, stated that they played well but not outstandingly together, but the image of four of the great composers of the time all joined in common music making is still one of the classic images of the Classical era.
Its a pity the tape recorder was not invented earlier, a piece of music history lost forever.
was just reading this thread and u post this one dude , sweet - was playing slipknot on headphones n now this tune....its all good in my book as a musician
What piece of classical music do you like?
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