Is the age of nice guys with values dead?

[azulai]

Seriously what has happened to the age of manners, traditional family values? I am not an angel by any standards but at his whole thing with hook ups, cheating, open relationships and the like is awfully tacky and scummy. So am I being totally silly? Am I being over the top? Or do I just have an old souklthat doesn't fit in with people of my age? But please tell me, is anyone else out there with the same values I have?

I think there is a fine line between stating you have “values” and being moralistic. Writing off people who don't subject themselves to your standards, as “scummy,” “awfully tacky” or as you stated in the other thread: “lacking principles” is more a reflection of your narrow mindedness and prejudice than their values.

What is it about sex that bothers you so much? What is it about physical contact that “repulses” you? Why is it wrong for two guys to hookup if they are both consenting adults and both know the score?

I think you are being immature rather than “silly.” I think you have a lot to learn about empathy and humility. You are on the outside looking in on other people's motivations and relationships. You find everyone lacking? That just amazes me. I don't think you have an old soul as you state, I think you have a very young soul. You are missing out on knowing some wonderful individuals because they don't “measure up” to your idea of "family values" which apparently includes sexual purity.

Ok then good, I just don't like the way I'm being looked at I asked a question do others have these values and it's come across like I'm bitter. I don't want a man, I just wanted to know if others have these values, it's like I'm being picked on . . . . . . . . . .

I think you are going to have a problem with my post. You have a victim mentality. You are attempting to make yourself feel “right.” Actually, that's what quite a few of the posts at GS are: people seeking validation in some form. I read the other thread, no one “picked on” you. You came across as a moralistic tool.

So, do I share your values? No, I value a kind heart, honesty, integrity, open-mindedness, self-awareness, humility, personal freedom, personal responsibility, and a sense of humor. I love it when people have a little jazz in their soul.

And just so you know, I've never hooked up and that's not something I would ever be interested in. I didn't share my first kiss until I was 20 and I'm very happily monogamous. I would never cheat because I would hurt him, put his life at risk and it would be dishonest.

I really hope you come to respect other people's personal decisions even if they aren't what you would choose for yourself.