Is the age of nice guys with values dead?

[AlephNull]

Many women wonder the same thing.

A gay guy told me it was easy to seduce straight men, at least for a one night stand. He said men were such dogs that when they can't get what they want that they'll take what they can get. Going by how I've been treated by men I can believe that's generally true. Even wearing a ring and saying I'm married doesn't stop men from coming onto me, and they have ever since I was a child. And when I was a runaway I saw a lot of men with wedding rings cruising for girls, some of whom probably had daughters the same age.

The kind of man you're looking for does exist, but I believe they're exceedingly rare.



This actually happens? :confused:

I use a sauna all the time and the thought of having sex in one is just....NO!

A guy told me that it was dangerous to sauna naked (or even sauna at all) because even when the same sex the others could come onto you. I found that preposterous and when he expressed surprise that I (along with other women) saunad naked with hippie men I snarked, "I guess something about being in a humid heatwave that makes you sweat buckets kinda kills the mood." But then I added that it was rude to stare at someone that closely and I certainly didn't stare at anyone, let alone their private parts, while I was there. He assured me that the guys were checking ME out. Possible, but I didn't get any sexual vibes off of them.

I've never feared anyone harassing me in one. I've also read plenty of erotica and not one scene has taken place in a sauna. I've saunaed with a girlfriend (with a much higher sex drive) at a fitness center before, too, and we've never done anything there: think about it, even IF we wanted to for some strange reason it would be way too easy to get caught, and once caught then our memberships would almost certainly be revoked, because even if the prudery & etiquette violations didn't get us booted, concerns about the possible safety hazard regarding our getting a burn injury and suing them or leaving possibly infected bodily fluids exposed to others (including those who work there) WOULD get us booted, I'm sure. And other fitness centers would likely hear of us before we even tried joining. In addition, if someone were to come onto me, I'd not only see it as disrespectful (saunas are for health & relaxing in), but also the same not-worth-it risk, and I'd likely report it if she didn't instantly stop at my very firm "leave me alone." And I'm not even hetero.

Though a Russian I knew did tell me they had "VIP Saunas" in Russia, which was a sauna with prostitutes...

Oh please, cry me a river... You're just doing the female equivalent of the "Nice Guy" (except of course your not attracted to men, but you get what I mean). Just stop it. Maybe you hand out with the wrong guys?

Anyways. I have seen LOTS of girls lead guys on and take advantage of them (by getting free room and board from them by feigning an interest in them). But I don't boo hoo about how terrible women are. I don't call them "bitches". So get off of your sexist horse please.