Is the age of nice guys with values dead?

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3) "traditional family values" is quite frankly out of place here.
All i associate that phrase with is basically Christian family values due to it being the main religion of our countries, and to be blunt, are used to promote very vile things like gender roles and gender inequality , marriage inequality, opposition to gay adoption, and i'm pretty sure it would of been one of the reasons for anti-sodomy laws.

Seems like any Christian organisation with "family" in it's name now days is very archaic in it's beliefs and are normally extremely opposed to homosexuality's(and ANY sexuality beyond heterosexuality) very existence(or at least acknowledging it).
I'm sorry, that phrase is a pet peeve of mine.

I disagree. We should not let 'family values' mean the values of the particular Christian denomination of the user. We should use the words 'family values'; sticking together through tick and thin, charity begins at home, coming together for hatches, matches and despatches, etc. These are all laudable values to be proud of.


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