Relationship (and sex) with a transman

[pisceskhminh]

When the word man comes up I immediately thinking physiologically and anatomically then I think genetically as in XY chromosome. To me that is what a male is. Also you can get effeminate makes who are biologically men, behaviour doesn't come into it. That person you talked about may have a male essence about him and if he is trans I respect that, but In my view he is genetically and to some extent biologically female. Its the scientist in me that makes me think that way, I don't intend to offend but even after a sex reassignment surgery you are still what your genetics make you, you can't change that. However anyone who wants to live their life as a man or a woman I respect, it's their choice and they are who they believe to be in their eyes.

Of course you don't offend me or other people. And what you say actually makes sense. Socially, a transman is a real man, but he's biologically a female. As long as people see them as men, they should be proud of themselves.

Back to what you say, what do you think about men who have surgery to change their genitals? I mean they are biological males; they are happy with their male appearance; they are masculine. Everything about them is male except that they are psychologically dysphoric with their penis, and they desire to make it look different: either cut it or invert it. But they don't want to become women. And let's say that they are good-hearted people and also honest with you about their status. Do you think you can develop a romantic relationship with them?

i know this question is really strange. If I didn't read about Josef Kirchner, a gay man who has bottom surgery and stays a man, I wouldn't know such people exist. Realjock site has a thread talking about this too.