mrk2010 Wrote:I'm sorry but these are my views, and if you can't accept that well I'm sorry. I am thinking of the members of gayspeak who are minors and who may be having contact with this gentleman, in no way am I ignorant I am thinking of child protection and I desperately think Andy needs to address this. If you can't see this I am sorry.
I don't like to choose sides when it comes to arguements, but I have to agree and disagree with Mrk2010.
I was 13 when a 23 year old man decided to start stalking me, and still does to this day! He claims he loves me and blah blah. He told me he used to watch me at the bus stop and knew my schedule and everything.
I'm a person who doesn't notice people around when I'm walking, but because of this, I've become strictly aware of my surroundings, although sometimes I slip up.
and in general, I just don't like men around anyone I love or people who cannot defend themselves. It's probably an issue I got from not having a father for 17years, growing up not trusting men, but that's how I am.
But on the flipside- I disagree on the fact that, though his thoughts may be perverse and sick, you cannot condemn him for it, because it's how he is. The man that stalks me even now, I've contacted him against my mother's wishes, and actually talked to him and tried to figure out why he likes me and why he doesn't like other men his own age.
He told me he that he's not like them, that he wants someone who "hasn't been around the block and back", basically someone innocent[Virgin]. I told him politely that I wasn't interested and that he should try to atleast find someone who is his own age that he can love. He insists that he loves me, but I told him he doesn't and that it isn't right , even if I am of age now. Because I personally do not and will not sleep with someone, just to sleep with them.
He's not one of those lunatics that sits in his basement, on his computer perpetually masturbating to [child]porn, but rather a normal regular guy, with a nice job at the airport. I even offered to be his friend, but he only claims that he doesn't want to be just friends, so I declined him.
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So on one hand I can agree with Mrk2010, although you all seem not to, but only because I have a general distrust of any man I don't explicitly know, having been raised by women in a family dominated by women. I don't even trust the men in my family, because I know what they're like, furthering my distrust of men. It may sound weird coming from me, a "love for all" guy, but it's just how I am. Had you all grown up like me, you would see where I'm coming from.
It's even harder for me, because I'm attracted to guys and am a guy myself.
But on the flip side, I disagree, because I still believe that everyone deserves a chance, even when it comes to redeeming themselves, because like someone said, we are all humans and deserve equal oppurtunity and libreties.
Also, help can only be given to those who ask for it and mean it. If you are unwillinging to change, then you never will, because only you can make a change within yourself.
It takes a strong and brave person to protect someone from someone else, but an even stronger and braver person to allow the attacker to protect the attackee from themselves.
"Be the change you want to see in the world"
Do we want to see people, no matter the affliction, discriminated/abused/bashed and basically destroyed, all based on superior human morals or rather everyone trying to help one another and get along harmoniously?
I'm not saying let the "sick-o's" be sick-o's and possibly torment whomever/whatever, but rather try to help them, even if it doesn't seem like help.
They're only sick, because that's what you call them, rather than helping them recover.
& Neither Pedophilia or Homosexuality or even Heterosexuality are diseases. It's just a different way to be born, like being Black/White/Spanish/Russian.
But in the end, all humans are technically flawed, so any angle you look at it from, is going to have holes and pit-falls.
Sorry to dissapoint anyone, I probably shouldn't have expressed my opinion, but I did so...
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By the way, the greeks did this all the time, though now is often confused with Pedophilia, when in actuality it was called
Pederasty .