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A strange situation in my life
#1
I'm hoping to find some advice here for a situation that happened to me recently. Its a little long but I hope it helps to understand the whole story

For the past four years I've been in a relationship with David. He is eight years younger than me (I'm currently 32) but that was never a problem for us. Before I was with him, I had 3 year relationship with another guy, my first love, that ended because he left me. I was devastated and took me more that a year to settle back. I really felt lonely throughout that time and was starting to get used to it when I met David.

As far as I know, until a few months ago it was a stable monogamous relationship. When we've met he was living with his parents and had a really terrible life. His parents were constantly fighting, his mother suffocated him to a point where he had no life of his own. After being a few months with him we decided that it was best for him to move to my apartment so that he was away from that environment. Since that moment we've been living together as a couple.

At the beginning of this year we decided to start a small business together with the help of some of our friends. Things were running smoothly but sometimes we were short on money and had to cut back on expenses to keep things running. A few months ago David met a guy (an older guy, in his sixty somethings) through one of his friends who offered him some money to help our business. Since part of our business was related with charity and helping low income families, me and the rest of the people working with us, though that the guy was doing that of good will.

But then things got stranger, the guy started to ask David to go out to places with him. At first, David told me that he wanted to introduce him to people, then the excuses for being with the guy started to make no sense at all. For many times I asked David what was happening and he always told me that everything was fine and that he loved me and not to worry about it. I started to get suspicious but stopped nagging him because I didn't want things to go wrong between us because of me being too jealous.

A few days ago, out of nothing, David confessed me that he was having an affair with that guy. At the beginning I though that it was only something at the sentimental level, because he said he "felt good" with that guy. But then, after making him talk about what happened, he confessed that he had been emotionally and physically involved with the guy several times throughout the past month. He also only told the guy about our relationship when the he asked him what kind of "thing" was happening between David and me. Of course, at that time the guy was already interested in him. I still don't know how David described our relationship to the guy.

The problem is that, unlike me, David is not out to anyone, none of his friends know about me and him, even though we went out together some times and his parents never heard a confirmation from him, even though they were suspicious. Even though I respected that and never forced him to come out to anyone, I always felt that I never existed for his friends, especially the new friends he has made since we were together, some of which I have never met. This always made me feel suspicious. It was like if he wanted his friends to see him as a single guy.

Before this had happened, I found out that he was visiting gay hookup sites and confronted him. He told me that he was only trying to make gay friends. He felt that, unlike me who had friends to talk about our relationship, he had no one to talk to because he was not out to his closest friends. At that time it seemed like a reasonable excuse, but since then I started to get suspicious. I always felt like something was missing from our relationship. Even though we lived together, we rarely shared our lives or even talked about plans for the future. The only big venture we made together was starting that business.

When he told me about the affair I was shocked, even tough deep down I knew it. I didn't knew what to do, betrayal is something that I don't stand, and since that moment on I've stopped being in love with him. Usually in situations like this we would go our separate ways, especially because he told me that he still feels something about that guy. However, I've decided to give him some time and see how things go in the future, even though I don't feel anything special for him now.

I think I might be trying to save something from this relationship but I don't know if it is the right thing to do. I feel that he is sad for what he has done and is still confused of what to do. He tried to propose me a sort of downgrade of our relationship, to make it something like an open relationship where he could still be with me and also with the other guy, but I don't want that for me, especially because he took the decision to be with the other guy without saying nothing to me first.

My friends, who know everything that has happened, told me to leave him without second thoughts but even though I am hurt because of what he has done to me I also feel sorry for him. I know that it is strange and stupid because I should be mad with him for his betrayal but I also know that he has no one to talk with or to support him. I've also come to realize that the reason why I felt in love with him was mainly because of me helping him with the problems he had with his family. At that time I was also felling lonely and hurt from the previous relationship. It made me feel good with myself when I was helping him as a friend and he also felt good with me and then things evolved into a relationship.

When I realize that, I start to feel that maybe the relationship started for the wrong reasons, is was not because we felt attracted by our personalities or characteristics but because of our problems. Maybe, because of this it was deemed to end sooner or later. But... its just a guess. I really don't know what to do from now on, he is still living in my house, we talk a lot with each other, more that when we were a couple, and I enjoy his company but that's it. I no longer feel emotionally connected with him, and when I am with my friends I don't miss him anymore.

My fear is that because of his presence I start to feel something for him again and I don't want to return to a similar kind of relationship, especially because I feel he still doesn't know what he wants for his life. Is he the kind of person who wants to be in long term relationships... because I want that, and I have decided it a long time ago before I was with him. It seemed to me that he wanted the same thing but now I don't know, and the more I thing of it the less I feel that it is what he wants.
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#2
I am so sorry this has happened to you. If you don't want a open relationship it's time to talk to him and ask him who he wants. You have a business together and if you decide to leave him you still need to sort out the business maybe you could buy him out. I really hope things work out for you.
We are all here if you want to talk to any off us.
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#3
sounds like he initially wanted a one way ticket out of his parents house into yours. Your a good man for giving this to him but bad to assume he will be your husband. I would come to grips with this and let him be in your life forever. Even if he is living in the room in your house of across town; enjoy a good friend. You guys may get back together, maybe not, i hope both of you can date and find someone else or figure it dosnt get any better and re start the relationship.

my thoughts, hope this helps.
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#4
What a terrible thing to go through. My heart is out to you, I've had similar experiences with guys who lied to me. Just remember two things:

1) If he did it once, he'll likely do it again unless some huge life alerting event changes him.

2) If said event does occur, or he grows up 2-3 years down the road, who knows?

All I can say is it's hard to be around an ex without some kind of strong emotion. Just remember what happened, and only you can figure it out.

<3
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#5
If you are his first gay experience he may be chomping at the bit to get more experiences in the gay way. He is in the closet, and most likely 'regrets' that to some degree as well.

There is no doubt a lot of influences at play here. There is no single one thing that caused this. And to be honest you may never know every single reason behind this situation.

Betrayal of trust usually has the first impact of 'numbness', it takes a while before the tsunami wave of bitterness, hurt and anger rolls in.

This is a a grief thing, the 5 stages of grief (which is often applied to just death, but applies to any major changing situation) are:

Denial, Bargaining, Anger, Depression, Acceptance.

I think you have a mix of denial and bargaining going on. You are trying to deny that this is what and who he is and you are bargaining in that you can fix this and make it ok.

I fear that when anger kicks in it won't be pretty.

I also fear that many gay men flat refuse to enter into a relationship with a 'newbie' to the LGBT world and enter a relationship with a closeted person because so many of these sorts of relationships end up being 'ugly' as the closeted or 'fresh' gay guy gets a taste for being gay and wants to explore that world and try everything.

Can you all work through this and find a compromise and solutions? I don't know. There seems to be a lot of stuff here which most likely is best suited for a couple's therapist.
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#6
Unfortunately, your story is not an uncommon one. That said, I think you need to stop thinking about HIS feelings and HIS life and think about YOUR life and YOUR feelings.

To be honest, it sounds to me like your relationship STARTED based on co-dependence and then moved on to you ENABLING his behaviour - because you didn't draw a line in the sand when he confessed to cheating on you.

Call it an affair if you want, the bottom line is, he found a richer "daddy." I know that's a tough one to swallow, but i was in a similar situation many moons ago and all i can tell you is what I did and why.

END THE RELATIONSHIP IMMEDIATELY! I know money's tough, and you may have to really scrape some money together, but, he needs to be OUT of your house and out of your LIFE ASAP!

So, how do you do that? Well, there are 2 options:
1) Find a very inexpensive 1-room apartment and pay 3 months rent and put the room in his name. Pack up all his stuff and have it in the hall way when he gets home and tell him the following. "I can no longer have you in my house or in my life from a romantic position. I have rented a 1-room apartment for you and paid 3 months rent. I've changed the locks on the house and your stuff is here. This isn't a negotiation. this is my decision. You lied to me. You cheated on me. You repaid my kindness, affection and love with your deceptive actions and there are consequences to our actions. Please do not make an issue of this. This is my house and my decision is final. (Note: to avoid issues wiht co-habitation, be sure to change his address from your home to the new apartment before you tell him).

2) This friday evening, when he comes home, tell him you need to talk. Tell him the following, "So, i've been thinking about your cheating on me and the lies you've told and the pain you've caused me and I can no longer pretend that i can deal with having you in my life any longer. So, you need to find a place to live this weekend and be out by Sunday. I know it's short notice, but i'm not going to drag this out. Here's $1,500. This should be enough for first and last months rent at a small apartment. Please don't make a scene. Don't beg me to change my mind or act like a child. You lied and cheated on me and this is happening because of what YOU CHOSE to do.

Trust me, he will live with you as long as he can until someone or something better comes along. Do you - or can you - live that way?

If you can't do this, and are going to come up with a dozen excuses why you can't or shouldn't kick him out, then, to be honest, you deserve the misery you're imposing upon yourself.
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#7
This is what happens when you take someone out of a bad environment and give them a "life".
They eventually turn on you.

He may have feelings for you, but he was probably using you to get away from a bad home life.
At this point, you should have ONLY been roommates.

Im surprised this has lasted 8 years.

Usually I would say dump his ass and just forget him, but seeing as you are realizing what is going on and what has happened, I think you are wise enough to make a good decision on this.

But my personal suggestion is, take your stuff and leave.
This isnt going to end well for either of you if you continue down this road.
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#8
While I wasn't in a "relationship" with him there's a guy, his name is Jonathan, i've mentioned him before on here.

I was absolutely devastated when after I asked him to be with me he told me he wasn't in a place for a telationship.

I tried to be just a friend with him. It just caused me more pain.

I came to the conclusion that as much as I like him as a person I can't be around him.

Not easy, but I think nevessary.

Richard
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#9
Hey guys, just want to thank you for the advises. I've talked to my closest friends about this and all of them told me to find a way to put an end to this situation and get him out of my life because if I don't do it, it would only hurt me more. The situation between me and him is getting worst. Even though our relationship has ended he still tries to control me, ask me where I go, who am I with, what time I get home, and every time we try to talk it ends with a discussion.

After clearing my thoughts I've realized that I'm only keeping him in my life because of what we've build together and because I don't want to be alone. Its going to be hard but I have to talk with him and find a solution to put an end to this so that we can live separate lives. It's sad that things have to end like this but its life...
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