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Jake Wrote:Please don't be condescending
i didn't mean to be condescending. i am aggressive. and i express my opinions forcefully. don't read a condescending quality into it.
Quote:Your logic isn't fact... your statement is your vision, your perception, and yes I understand what you mean and right now it's just starting to be a word game. Now however can you agree that if you would have first explained it that way nobody would have reacted. You know what I mean? Simple logic right?
no, it is not a vision, it is a fact. i edited one of my posts above to explain what i meant, maybe you didn't re-read it:
and how was i to know people would misread it. i explained myself now.
meridannight Wrote:anal pleasure is a real effect felt by a man on the receiving end. since the effect is real and exists (it is not an opinion, it is tangible sensation, unless you want to prove it otherwise) and since it is the reason why some men engage in anal sex, it becomes a function. pretty simple logic there.
that makes it a fact. because the pleasure is a real sensation. fact. all the way.
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Okay it seems that I can not reply directly to you. I still stand Meri that the way you explained it wasn't clear and as much aggressive you are emotion should not dictate your judgement, because can you or can you not agree that your answer was very simplistic and open to discussions. But I see the way you argue, and yes it quite difficult not to see it as condescending because of the word that was used. It almost implied that we were not intelligent enough to understand your reasoning.
Quote:how hard is it to understand anal pleasure is a real effect felt by a man on the receiving end
In speech analysis this has a quite condescending tone - not aggressive. Yet I had ask a question and when I asked you derived it by going straight to defend your point. Which I do not disagree at all with you after you developed more your rhetoric on the subject. If you see it that way - that because the pleasure is real yes it is a fact. How can I not be okay with that.
But this wasn't the point of BA's argument. I'm quite certain that BA agrees with that too.
Meri I do appreciate you, but you did make a mistake in your first statement, it was underdeveloped and it was truly perceived as a counter-argument that the ass wasn't made for fucking. We were not developing on the pleasuring functions because right there I would have agreed with you... It was physiology, anatomy and the matter and the fact is that the function that we added is not the actual function designed for it. I don't know who was the first caveman to have stuck a finger up his ass and perpetrated the tradition of prostate milking and stimulation, but if he would have not done it, can we just agree that, this function wouldn't be there in the first place?
And Meri, I can also be very aggressive when defending a point, but I always try not to personally or generally attack with the above statements I mentioned, yes they can definitely be perceived as being condescending. And one of the first rules of a debate is to stay on course. This has derived totally to a related subject, but not the same at all.
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DawnArmy Wrote:No that I completely disagree with your post, but you cannot say that prostate doesn't bring any pleasure.
But again, there seems to be another way to experience prostate pleasure without getting penetrated. (sphincter contraction?)
Well, there is one well known way to get prostate pleasure and that's to masturbate... The feeling may be quite different from being internally pleasured but it's the same pleasure source, isn't it?
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princealbertofb Wrote:Beaux, are you sure about the positioning of that second sphincter??? 4 to 6 inches inside the anus it would be a pretty big sphincter... (10 to 15 centimetres) The second sphincter that can cause hurting upon penetration, the involuntary one, is much closer to the first one than you are saying.
Not sure which sphincter you are referring to.
I have never stuck a ruler up my ass, but I do know that I have NEVER duched(sp?), never had any "smell", and barring my first 2 times bottoming, I have never had an "accident" involving fecal matter. Wether it is actually a sphincter or not (though I believe it is, because I can consciously open and close it), I do know that it all has to do with muscle control.
Though I am in my mid 40s now, and sex is down to 2-3 times a week, when I was in my 20s I often bottomed 2-3 times a day, and like I said, I have never had any problems with fecal matter or "smell"---no accidents.
~Beaux
P.S. My husband's penis is a little over 8 inches, but I have had lovers up to almost 11 inches. The size of the penis makes no difference to me "problem" wise. Because, as I will say again, excluding those first 2 experiences, I have NEVER had a lover who got "shit on his dick" from topping me, nor have I ever had a problem with "smells" or gas (farting) during intercourse.
Seriously, it all comes down to muscle control.
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Let's face it: sex smells. It's part of the erotic-sensory experience. If you're worried about the poop chute, douche and wash up beforehand...but the sex will still smell.
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If the Republicans find this thread our gay rights progress is gonna be set back years.
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Bowyn Aerrow Wrote:do you really want the 'Your ass is not for fucking' lecture? :confused:
When did you make a GS account, Dad?
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Sex always has a smell to it. Personally I like it when my room smells like sex, I think it's hot. Also, I have such spite for my roommate, who by the way does not shower. What goes around comes around, always. > 
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Beaux Wrote:I have never stuck a ruler up my ass, but I do know that I have NEVER duched(sp?), never had any "smell", and barring my first 2 times bottoming, I have never had an "accident" involving fecal matter. Wether it is actually a sphincter or not (though I believe it is, because I can consciously open and close it), I do know that it all has to do with muscle control.
Though I am in my mid 40s now, and sex is down to 2-3 times a week, when I was in my 20s I often bottomed 2-3 times a day, and like I said, I have never had any problems with fecal matter or "smell"---no accidents.
~Beaux
P.S. My husband's penis is a little over 8 inches, but I have had lovers up to almost 11 inches. The size of the penis makes no difference to me "problem" wise. Because, as I will say again, excluding those first 2 experiences, I have NEVER had a lover who got "shit on his dick" from topping me, nor have I ever had a problem with "smells" or gas (farting) during intercourse.
Seriously, it all comes down to muscle control.
You're a lucky, and very clean bottom, Beaux... But even if it did happen, it wouldn't be the end of the world.
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Wade Wrote:If the Republicans find this thread our gay rights progress is gonna be set back years.
What makes you say that, Wade? Are you worried that there's too much grossness in this thread? When you see the stuff that some straights get down to, (and to be honest I think all this needing guns is worse than any sex going on) I don't think we need to receive lessons from them, Republican or otherwise.
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