Majority of Gay Couples Don't Like Anal Sex?

[OrphanPip]

I'm not a layman though, I have a degree in microbiology and immunology.

And yes it is just a matter of semantics whether you want to call the subtypes a strain or a subtype, it has no relation to the validity or utility of differentiation, which is another matter entirely.

(Edit: Also, the likely means of transmission was through Bush butchery, accidents happen frequently and blood mingles.)

[Beaux]

I'm not a layman though, I have a degree in microbiology and immunology.

And yes it is just a matter of semantics whether you want to call the subtypes a strain or a subtype, it has no relation to the validity or utility of differentiation, which is another matter entirely.

(Edit: Also, the likely means of transmission was through Bush butchery, accidents happen frequently and blood mingles.)

Well, I am presently compelting my masters at Southern Arkansa in virology. I will be the first to admit that I no longer work in a biology related field as my internship with the CDC left me disillusioned with the field. I worked on the west nile virus project in Louisiana at the time and found the entire process tedious. I turned the offer of a permenant position down.

I suppose it is a matter of prespective, and I will happily agree to disagree. I am sure that you have encountered information in your education that has supplyed you with your view, perhaps even work experience? So hard to judge now that your generation occasionally graduates a year or even two years early.

Beaux

[OrphanPip]

Well, I am presently compelting my masters at Southern Arkansa in virology. I will be the first to admit that I no longer work in a biology related field as my internship with the CDC left me disillusioned with the field. I worked on the west nile virus project in Louisiana at the time and found the entire process tedious. I turned the offer of a permenant position down.

I suppose it is a matter of prespective, and I will happily agree to disagree. I am sure that you have encountered information in your education that has supplyed you with your view, perhaps even work experience? So hard to judge now that your generation occasionally graduates a year or even two years early.

Beaux

You're misunderstanding me. It's not whether differentiating strains is important that I disagree with. What I said was a matter of semantics was whether you are calling a type/subtype a strain or using the more specific taxonomic distinctions.

I just find it unusual to use strain to refer to a viral type like HIV-1, though I suppose it's correct because any clade is a strain in its own right, because strain tends to be applied at the lowest level of the taxonomy for a line of descent.

Edit: And my degree was completed in 3 years as is standard of the British university model that is still used in Quebec. Since we attend college after secondary school before going on to university.

[Beaux]

You're misunderstanding me. It's not whether differentiating strains is important that I disagree with. What I said was a matter of semantics was whether you are calling a type/subtype a strain or using the more specific taxonomic distinctions.

I just find it unusual to use strain to refer to a viral type like HIV-1, though I suppose it's correct because any clade is a strain in its own right, because strain tends to be applied at the lowest level of the taxonomy for a line of descent.

Well why didnt you say so? It is easy to explain why the caldistics are necessary. The reason that HIV mutates at such a high rate is due to genetic its (quite incredible really) variability. One of the species (HIV-1 and HIV-2) presumably diverged form the other. Locating the originator species of the virus and the semian species that it associated with would provide the opportunity to study inherited immunity in said species, hopefully leading to synthisized protien inhibitors.
Also it is necessary to track the further mutation of the disease, it is generally agreed on that we will see more mutations of the virus long before we see the end of it.

[fredv3b]

Fascinating virology discussion. I once read that the retrospectively first known case of HIV was in Ghanaian man who died in the '50s and was subsequently exhumed and tested. However it wasn't in the most reliable publication, has anyone else heard this story.

Alot of people ask me from time to time whether i think its a man made virus or natural one and tbh i think man made as in the 1700's they never mentioned it... l have my beleifs as to where it came from and i dont beleive africa ill state that now lol

If HIV is man-made because it wasn't mentioned in the 1700's then the evil geniuses behind it must have been very busy creating a whole raft of infectious diseases including chronic stomach ulcers. Seriously, medicine has moved on absolutely hugely since then, it has even become vaguely scientific. Suppose HIV was around in the 18th century, how would it appear to doctors of the time? Asymptomatic infection would be unrecognised, when people developed AIDS they would develop a severe infection and die, which was not uncommon at the time. So there would be nothing special about HIV sufferers.

If HIV wasn't man-made why not Africa as a source?

East,

Thankyou for this time giving your reasons for your belief that HIV is artificial. I am afraid though that it would require a fantastic level of technical sophistication for the period and a similarly fantastic maintenance of secrecy over all the succeeding years given the number of people who would need to be involved.

A scientific entity needs to be identified and studied at a basic level before it can be named, so testing people thought to be at risk before naming it is hardly strange. I suspect they had your name and address because somebody told them. I take everbody's claims about sex, including virginity, with a significant pinch of salt. I am I afraid I do not have a response to your story regarding testing amongst your friends and Karposi sarcoma. However as I mentioned above, your explanation is, to me, too fantastic to be credible.

I am sure any doctors and nurses you meet would be horrified by your belief that they might be part of a conspiracy to infect them with diseases.

[East]

Fred...I did not tell the entire story. I don't need you to believe me.

I am sure any doctors and nurses you meet would be horrified by your belief that they might be part of a conspiracy to infect them with diseases.

I am kinda horrified how much gay men and women in the past 25 years have internalized homophobia. AIDS did it's job well. There are plenty of known examples where the good doctors and nurses did exactly that...infected people with a disease. Tuskegee comes to mind but germ and biological warfare have been documented on the table for years...the Nazis and Japanese doctors weren't so "good" either...they had no problem experimenting on people.

There is a huge contingent of the public who believes we should be put to death. They believe this is what God wants. They think they are in a holy war. Do you think this is just confined to certain countries? Uganda officials had alot of help shaping their views from conservative Christians here in the US.

[DOMITIAN]

This is my very first post on a gay forum, but the subject of anal sex is a very dear one to me. I am not trying to make a joke of the issue. Who really knows what most gay couples prefer? This is a private matter for each person/couple, so we cannot expect everyone to answer this question everytime with total honesty.

One thing I learned, right from the start, is that anal sex is a very delicate sexual manoever, and it must be done with uttermost care and method. The Bottom Partner must be properly prepared for it. The Top-Partner must know what he is doing also and, ofcourse, the Bottom Partner must know how to be helpfull in getting it started properly.

If it is done incorretly, or too brutally, injury to the Bottom Partner can result. I do not claim to be a medical expert. I am only speaking from experience. A serious enough rupture of the anus can be very long lasting, not to mention painfull. And a rupture of the anus, (the opening of the rectum), can progress into a fistula. A fistula is a tubular type infection which never heals. It must be surgically removed and the result can be a permanently damaged anal entry which excludes any further anal sex for life.

Fortunately, (I asssume), most gays who practice anal intercourse know what they are doing, and never have to experience this problem. To me; anal sex was the most wonderfull physical experience I ever had with a loving partner. I can barely imagine being gay and not being able to enjoy this wonderful way of joining with annother man.

[OrphanPip]

Reading around a bit on this the other day, the more reliable statistics these days seem to place the frequency between 70-90, with varying frequency based on age.

It also tends to be less frequent amongst couples than in casual encounters, which is understandable from my own experiences at least. I personally could live with or without it, it's not my favourite thing, nor is it something I think needs to be left off the table in a relationship.

Edit: Same-sex sex-ed is important and really it doesn't hurt for everyone out there to pick up a book and read about it. Porn is simply not a good way to learn about gay sex, the positions even are designed for camera angles.

[princealbertofb]

Thanks OrphanPip for this new insight... you are probably right with this figure... and of course, the age criterion.

[Patrick]

I love anal sex In shower, in the street (hidden of course), at work... oohhhh you remind me of my old times If you wish to enjoy anal sex you need to know how to relax... Most people are just caring about quick satisfaction... which has nothing to do with real pleasure