my sad life, need to make it better

[lwh999]

Pellaz,
I am as far away from being a pervert as you can get, you don't really know a thing about me yet you come away with that statement, if you've done this with me I'm sure you've done it with other people on here as well, your problem not mine, you just a faceless idiot on the internet to me, I came on here to try and get help, and I've received more help and advice than I could have imagined, I won't let one guy who chooses to make slanderous statements put me off, as I've said in previous posts, I like Thailand and I've holidayed there before but never been with a guy there or anywhere else, despite the fact that it's freely available over there, if I'm a pervert pellaz as you say shouldn't I being having a ball over there, thanks again everyone for excellent advice and for taking the time to try and help me.

Pellaz, I would appreciate it if you kept your comments in future to yourself and refrain from adding to this conversation, your comments are unwelcome, I have no wish to have any sort of correspondence with people like you, prostitution is the "oldest trade" in the world, many millions of people have used prostitution, male or female, I'm sure a few members of this forum may have done this at some point in their life, people who go with prostitutes are not "sex offenders or perverts", can't believe I NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO A 57 YEAR OLD.

[LateBloomer]

Pellaz,
I am as far away from being a pervert as you can get, you don't really know a thing about me yet you come away with that statement, if you've done this with me I'm sure you've done it with other people on here as well, your problem not mine, you just a faceless idiot on the internet to me, I came on here to try and get help, and I've received more help and advice than I could have imagined, I won't let one guy who chooses to make slanderous statements put me off, as I've said in previous posts, I like Thailand and I've holidayed there before but never been with a guy there or anywhere else, despite the fact that it's freely available over there, if I'm a pervert pellaz as you say shouldn't I being having a ball over there, thanks again everyone for excellent advice and for taking the time to try and help me.

Pellaz, I would appreciate it if you kept your comments in future to yourself and refrain from adding to this conversation, your comments are unwelcome, I have no wish to have any sort of correspondence with people like you, prostitution is the "oldest trade" in the world, many millions of people have used prostitution, male or female, I'm sure a few members of this forum may have done this at some point in their life, people who go with prostitutes are not "sex offenders or perverts", can't believe I NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO A 57 YEAR OLD.

I think prostitution serves a certain purpose in society--otherwise it just wouldn't exist.

BUT, the southeast Asian sex industry has a notorious reputation for various reasons.

The question here is not really a matter of seeking out children for sex, because I personally don't believe that's what you're after. You mentioned young guys so I have to assume you're looking for young adults. At face value, that's fair.

BUT! The question for me would be the act of patronizing an industry notorious for lack of regulation, employment of minors, and unfair labor practices (indentured servants).

Take the sex workers in Frankfurt or Amsterdam for that matter. It's much more controlled with less chance of things going wrong, but still you gotta keep your head on your shoulders.

All that said, I totally GET IT. I understand about your desire for anonymity and the convenience of a simple transaction.

I'm afraid if you're not willing to warm up to the idea of getting to know someone, then you're going to have to "pick your poison." Either pick up a male prostitute in a far away land, or take the risk of picking up a fellow Scot in Glasgow.

For me, as you might already know, I chose the latter. I went local. And it was nothing great, but nothing bad came of it. It was just two consenting adults together in a private home. Not totally without risk....but life is risky. My advice is to not participate in the exploitation of others--children or adults.

[zeon]

guys guys guys can we please stop persecuting iwh as his came here for advice not judgement yet by some posts they can be read as a judgemental thing... It is very common for gay men all over the world to go to Thailand.. I have known people in real life and in virtual world go to thailand... Sometimes for a holiday and a place to relax and sometimes people go for the ladyboys but whatever the reason if its got risks invovled then allow them to make that mistake instead of judging them and if it goes tits up then do what I do.... Be supportive for when they come back OR if it goes bloody amazing just tell em whatever... Life is too short to scream at one another and to be honest we shouldnt or not in here anyhow Now lewts get back on topic without the pervert words or judgemental words... His here seeking advice so forget about thailand and help with advice not judgemental words

Kindest regards

zeon x

[lwh999]

latebloomer,
I am sorry you misunderstand, who said anything about children, someone about the age of 23, 24, I'd be looking for maybe slightly older, children were never mentioned, that's sick, one of the reasons I would be scared to come out as ignorant people in the outside world perceive gays as deviants, potential child molesters, I never thought that could happen to me on a gay forum, I am shocked and saddened, it may be "americans" ignorance about what actually goes on in Thailand, Thailand will probably have far less cases of child molestation than America does, someone suggested I go to Miami, do you get my point, as I've said I am shocked and saddened, I only came here for help, thank god this is anonymous, to be linked with child sex, pervertion, being a sex offender, what are you guys trying to do to me.

[dfiant]

My main concern for travels to Thailand weren't of the same concerns that have since been raised.

My concern is there have been many cases of entrapment by younger boys posing as older and sometimes it is very hard to tell, especially when it comes to ladyboys. Many men have been caught out by this.

And disease control is not as prevalent in asian society as it is in western society.

I apologise if you thought that I was one of those insinuating paedophilia, my concern was entrapment

[zeon]

latebloomer,
I am sorry you misunderstand, who said anything about children, someone about the age of 23, 24, I'd be looking for maybe slightly older, children were never mentioned, that's sick, one of the reasons I would be scared to come out as ignorant people in the outside world perceive gays as deviants, potential child molesters, I never thought that could happen to me on a gay forum, I am shocked and saddened, it may be "americans" ignorance about what actually goes on in Thailand, Thailand will probably have far less cases of child molestation than America does, someone suggested I go to Miami, do you get my point, as I've said I am shocked and saddened, I only came here for help, thank god this is anonymous, to be linked with child sex, pervertion, being a sex offender, what are you guys trying to do to me.

Dont take nothing to heart we are genuinely not a bad forum and on this occassion i feel a slight mis understandment on some peoples parts have been raised and concerned... Its got a little knotted along the way something im sure we would all never want to happen and when i say all i include the following REGISTERED MEMBERS AND THOSE WHO ARE BROWSING AND NON REGISTERED! I refer to people my age at 26 like kids at times because they havent matured and if its a force of habit it can easily be mis understood... On behalf of everyone in the forum i would like to apologize for any offence or mis understanding that any member may have caused... Now with regards to coming out dont be put off by the pedo talk by small minders because a fact of life is that children are abused by those they trust the most. In some cases they are gay abusers however majority of the time they tend to be people who are percieved to be "hetrosexual"... Now has he noticed a post ive put with advice???? lol

Kindest regards

zeon x

[Jay]

IWH, in your case, I don't think seeing a therapist is the answer. From the way I see it, there is nothing wrong with you. I think it's more about having the courage to leap from one stage of life and culture to another. You just need to gain experience in gay culture and community. In order to get that experience, you have to mingle with gay guys. Gayspeak is a good start.

Tell you what IWH, if you drop by at Malaysia, we can have coffee together at a cafe located in gay hot spot. It's not far from my office. I'm not into one night stand or such though. I'm saving myself for the right guy. But anyways the point is let's chat, mingle and have coffee together.

[lwh999]

Jay,
Thank-you for that kind offer, you're a lovely guy, you've restored my faith totally in this forum, don't know how feasible it is to go from BKK to KL, epecially when my accom' is all booked and paid for, I wouldn't totally rule out your nice offer though, I fly out on 14th Jan, I will have my laptop with me, maybe I'll get in touch, be nice to meet you and have a chat.

[pellaz]

My friend, you are really badmouthing what to me sounds like a person who is just trying to discover himself. Many of us are shocked and unsettled by the sex trade in Taiwan, but perhaps this is all he knows of the gay world. Instead of castigating him why can't we educate him.
Richard

this girl just wants to have fun:
all of what he says (and assures us he is going to do, with no uncertain terms) goes against being able to say your proud to be gay. Pseudo criminal and deviant sexual activity puts being gay back in the closet. In a post hiv society, gays are looking to legalize civil unions and marriage. We want society to accept our existence, want to hold hands, kiss our lovers in public. GaySpeak.com does not have to accept everything that has a pulse and can type. He is so far out there that sad to say may have to hit bottom on some issues so education can begin.

it will be difficult to educate this one:
He says he is too old to accept change. On one had he says he is lonely/ sad/ depressed on the other hand he will not date, make friends. He claims to be a person of modest means but expecting to spend a tone of cash in Asia someplace. He "knows" he wants to date younger men, well why dont some of the 20 year olds chime in with their thoughts how they would appreciate him as a trick/ date/ bf. This person shows low abilities to self help and will not go for the professional situation either.

he is a pervert:
He is taking advantage of men; going out of his way to a 3rd world county of choice to get the most handsome guy at the lowest price. Can we now understand why most of Africa it is criminal to be gay? The perversion here is making the totally desperate give you a really nice mind blowing blow job. He is extending the laws of "age of consent" to an area of the world far out of his culture to justify his goals.

[lwh999]

"GaySpeak.com does not have to accept everything that has a pulse and can type"

obviously that is the case, it accepts you

He is extending the laws of "age of consent" to an area of the world far out of his culture to justify his goals.

I'm not interested in any guy anywhere near the "age of consent" and never in any posting I've made have I implied this, yet I constantly get this from you.

I am glad I posted my story on this, I've had some extremely good advice, seems like there's a lot of nice people on here, Pellaz, you are a cyber bully, I asked that you not contribute to this any more but as a "cyber bully" I was wasting my time and no doubt I will have to read more of your slanderous hateful remarks, you've spoiled this discussion for me and have probably also ruined any chance I had of further educating myself and learning from "gayspeak.com" you are worse than any homphobe, you are a nasty spiteful old man.