“Countless millions will protest against the New World Order, and will die fightingit

[Aester]

But also, none is learned how to hunt these days, or what plants that are edible if we are abandoned in the woods or foreign place. The only knowledge of nature we have is pharmaceutical or to mass-produce normal food in vast mass, that is rare to find in the wild. Few knows of real survival... We need to embrace the knowledge of old, as to when this age will end, and our society will fail.

[Aester]

im swedish too and Norman french viking

the nudity sounds great

Är du verkligen svensk huh? French... viking? :confused:

[DerJack]

But also, none is learned how to hunt these days, or what plants that are edible if we are abandoned in the woods or foreign place. The only knowledge of nature we have is pharmaceutical or to mass-produce normal food in vast mass, that is rare to find in the wild. Few knows of real survival... We need to embrace the knowledge of old, as to when this age will end, and our society will fail.

Not entirely true, I myself have always prided myself on learning and practicing a number of self-sufficient skills, like plant ID and finding edibles. As well as lashing, knots, making rope, making fire, fishing, knitting, a whole plethora of things that when either the technology crashes, or when I choose to leave the technology behind I can do so.

[Aester]

Can you kill a big beast without a gun? Can you cut clean a carcass without contaminate it? Can you contain Fresh DRINKABLE water? Can you separate poison from an animal or plant so you can use it and eat the remaining? Do you know what plants are poisonous and which isn't and how to handle everything properly? How to consume right, not to over-consume but taking care of every part of an animal? To settle a proper and safe camp? How to use rain and storms to your advantage? How to take care of an infectious scar without proper medication? List is long :tongue:

[Genersis]

To our survival? If people has survived for over thousands of years without electricity,
so can we

But we survive BETTER with it.

As example. But yes, wee need those things NOW to survive cause the knowledge of old is forgotten.
Drop you of in an abandoned forest far from society or abandoned isle without anything I'm sure you'd die, so would I.

[COLOR="Indigo"]Yup. Just like if you dropped any single person in a wilderness unless they have learned to survive alone.
While i agree most people don't have this knowledge, that's mainly due to humans specialising in other areas of knowledge, rather than everyone having the survival skills of old. As some people specialise in food production for the ones who do not. [/COLOR]

Nature, our nature, is our only true teacher. New disease are always made cause thats natures way to hold down on the popus, but our body is always strong enough (Mostly) to cure it self. What makes for the great grand disease is actually most our causes why, the plague for an example...
people lived very very tight on each other and people didn't wash even once a week. as urine, poop, rotten food just laid on the street without proper disposal and no connection to the earth cause of the thick layer of rocks we use as pavement No wonder why it was created.

[COLOR="Indigo"]Technology is the only reason our life span is as long as it is now. If we never progressed this far, we would still have no idea how to avoid disease and cure it.
Our bodies aren't as good at recovering from diseases as you may think.
I don't know what you mean by "created", diseases will always be trying to find new ways of making our bodies their home. While we do often help them with this in some way, ditching technology ISN'T going to make diseases rarer.[/COLOR]

As i believe that aids are a created virus actually the in secret created by government (Illuminati) to degrease the population of the earth. Simply to prevent fucking, for having kids...

[COLOR="Indigo"] I don't think anyone would be so stupid as to create such a potent virus(by create you must mean weaponise an existing virus) and release it without some sort of cure. And I haven't noticed any key political figures or rich people suddenly being cured.
Did you just believe what you heard from others as it seemed right to you, or did you see evidence of this?[/COLOR]

As many other disease often creates by manipulation, cause of to many animals in a barn, to heavy animal breeding, bad food or whatever,
and as those disease were just created and meant for that place, it spreads tremendously only cause of our traffic, out planes, our ships,
as nature didn't intend humanity to travel that vast distances that fast. Much would have been prevented if we were just free, free hunters in the wild, as intended.

[COLOR="Indigo"]I don't quite get what you are saying.
All i can say is, it is very natural for a species to be selfish, unfortunately.
So yes, we are detrimental to the rest of nature, and we can try our best to fix that. Living like cave men, while good for other species, is detrimental to ours.[/COLOR]

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[Genersis]

Can you kill a big beast without a gun? Can you cut clean a carcass without contaminate it? Can you contain Fresh DRINKABLE water? Can you separate poison from an animal or plant so you can use it and eat the remaining? Do you know what plants are poisonous and which isn't and how to handle everything properly? How to consume right, not to over-consume but taking care of every part of an animal? To settle a proper and safe camp? How to use rain and storms to your advantage? How to take care of an infectious scar without proper medication? List is long :tongue:

Most of this was leaned by MANY people dying.
Now we have technology to make survival and learning to survive easier.
Even if it's just knowing to boil dirty water before drinking it.
Why should we return to the ways of old, without technology? In which people only know what their elders know? And where people can die form colds and diarrhea?

[ardus]

Can you kill a big beast without a gun?

Yes

Can you cut clean a carcass without contaminate it?

Yes

Can you contain Fresh DRINKABLE water?

Yes

Can you separate poison from an animal or plant so you can use it and eat the remaining?

Never tried but I bet I can

Do you know what plants are poisonous and which isn't and how to handle everything properly?

Mostly

How to consume right, not to over-consume but taking care of every part of an animal?

Yes

To settle a proper and safe camp?

Yes

How to use rain and storms to your advantage?

Yes

How to take care of an infectious scar without proper medication?

Yes

List is long :tongue:

What Else you got?
Richard

[DerJack]

Can you kill a big beast without a gun? Can you cut clean a carcass without contaminate it? Can you contain Fresh DRINKABLE water? Can you separate poison from an animal or plant so you can use it and eat the remaining? Do you know what plants are poisonous and which isn't and how to handle everything properly? How to consume right, not to over-consume but taking care of every part of an animal? To settle a proper and safe camp? How to use rain and storms to your advantage? How to take care of an infectious scar without proper medication? List is long :tongue:

Kill a beast w/gun: I'd rather a snare, or to fish, most who think about survival would know enough not to track a large prey unless they were guaranteed it would produce meat and that they would have enough people to consume it before it rotter, or supplies to preserve it etc. etc.

Cut and clean: Yes, squirrels, rabbits, fish, VERY easy to clean properly

Drinkable water: Fairly simple with filters, and if no filters boiling or distilling

Separate poison: There's generally not an awful lot of poison to worry about in the climates I am familiar with, also, I know what parts of the plants are edible, and which aren't

Plant knowledge: Much, not complete, but I've got a good idea of quite a few wild edibles in my surroundings

Consume right: I know, don't currently practice, but I do know

Proper camp: known since I was ten, and no I'm not talking about a nylon dome tent and a gasoline-lit fire

Storms advantage: No not really, how to weather storms yes, but I guess I don't know how to utilize them to full potential

Infection: Sphagnum moss... very simple, some form grows in almost all climates, it is naturally antibiotic and very easy to identify, furthermore it's greatly absorptive in the case of lots of bleeding

Lastly if you cared to have read through that list I'd like to say that those are honest answers and that even if not, my original statement was that of learning to do these things, I would like to some day be fully self sufficient and off the grid, at the moment I'm simply gaining knowledge to attain this goal... furthermore in regards to the whole of the world... maybe not everyone, but some, my original response was countering the idea that none have learned these skills, I was simply pointing out that there are people who have the knowledge and will survive if/when our fall comes.

[ardus]

[QUOTE=DerJack;140600
Lastly if you cared to have read through that list I'd like to say that those are honest answers and that even if not, my original statement was that of learning to do these things, I would like to some day be fully self sufficient and off the grid, at the moment I'm simply gaining knowledge to attain this goal... furthermore in regards to the whole of the world... maybe not everyone, but some, my original response was countering the idea that none have learned these skills, I was simply pointing out that there are people who have the knowledge and will survive if/when our fall comes.[/QUOTE]

You're a wise man Der Jack
Richard

[HollandofFrance]

Normans are were french vikings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normans

i dont speak swedish

youre saying am i really swedish?

anarchy could never work-someone always want to be in control and people want chiefs i think

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_I_of_England Richard the Lionheart, i think im related to him possibly he was gay