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Anocxu Wrote:That's a common misconception. .
If he gargled an alcohol based antiseptic. . Yes..
But if he ingested alcohol. . It will slow the production of anti- bodies needed to fight the infection. .

So in other words a see saw effect. .
Kinda like how drinking a shot of rum if you have the flu makes some people feel better.. and some worse. .

Ethanol is ethanol anywhere, beverages or antiseptics, concentration being the only difference you'd find. Antiseptics may have other things than ethanol, naturally.

Ethanol is toxic enough for you to not worry about trivial things like antibody production because entire cells are dying, yours and your uninvited infectious guest.

(antibodies do not fight the infection btw, they mark the pathogen as a target for the immune cells and molecular effectors that do)

We are probably saying the same things here.

What I said is that it is counterproductive to the purpose, but make no mistake: Bacteria are dying by the thousand upon contact with it.
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Anocxu Wrote:It's all in your favor. .
We want you to get better..


And cut down on drinking..

I was just joking. About being Irish and backwards. I don't need to cut down, I don't drink that much. If I did drink that much, I would admit it. I have no shame. There is nothing to worry about. I'm only embarrassed that I make it seem like I drink too much.
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Insertnamehere Wrote:Ethanol is ethanol anywhere, beverages or antiseptics, concentration being the only difference you'd find. Antiseptics may have other things than ethanol, naturally.

Ethanol is toxic enough for you to not worry about trivial things like antibody production because entire cells are dying.

We are probably saying the same things here.

What I said is that it is counterproductive to the end, but make no mistake: Bacteria are dying by the thousand upon contact with it.

Ahh...So based on the tissue type..
Example the epidermis Vs the
esophagus .. this is the reason a home remedy like salt water is recommended for the throat Vs an antiseptic / anti biotic for the skin...
On the other hand salt water can help a mild epidermis abrasion but an ethanol based mouthwash will not rid the oesophagus of a serious infection. ..
Hmm
Interesting. .
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himself Wrote:I was just joking. About being Irish and backwards. I don't need to cut down, I don't drink that much. If I did drink that much, I would admit it. I have no shame. There is nothing to worry about. I'm only embarrassed that I make it seem like I drink too much.
Actually. .
I can tell the difference. .

I've pretty much read all your posts..

Maybe about 4 - 5 times .. I knew you were plastered and horny..
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Anocxu Wrote:Ahh...So based on the tissue type..
Example the epidermis Vs the
esophagus .. this is the reason a home remedy like salt water is recommended for the throat Vs an antiseptic / anti biotic for the skin...
On the other hand salt water can help a mild epidermis abrasion but an ethanol based mouthwash will not rid the oesophagus of a serious infection. ..
Hmm
Interesting. .

Playing with membrane stability and lysing the cells are the ideas behind using salt water I reckon. Although that will also target your own epitelium and locally dehydrate that tissue, which is also not good.

Ethanol penetrates to the tissues, given its hydrophobic skeleton and small size, and kills everything its path, given there is enough of it..and mouthwashes do not have enough of it. Your choice would be higher concentrations of it, and deal with its toxicity

(although, some hypocrisy here is ocurring, cause many many people drink like there's no tomorrow, but then worry about a little ethanol for tonsils...ridiculous in my opinion)

I'm not very inclined to think either one is a particularly good idea to help with tonsillitis, because both come at the cost of some of your own tissue too.

Antibiotics are very selective, and the best alternative you'd get if this goes for long or too intense.

Ideally you'd want to have a culture done to identify the pathogen and a proper test of sensitivity to best select the antibiotic.

As for the moment, water, rest and symptom relievers are in order. Antipyretics, antiinflammatories, etc
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[MENTION=23097]Insertnamehere[/MENTION]
I have an erection after reading that post..

" beautiful Mind"
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Anocxu Wrote:[MENTION=23097]Insertnamehere[/MENTION]
I have an erection after reading that post..

" beautiful Mind"

I have somewhat of a similar feeling, discussing the topic with you has been pleasant.
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So this is the new structure of GaySpeak..?
We have active members from all walks of life that are more respectful and engaging than ever..
I truly love this group ..
Also the range in age and experience of this group contributes to this new dynamism .

With all the current members in place..
I am looking forward to learning from and growing with all of you..

Thanks again guys. .
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As equally as I, at least, am to keep reading you [MENTION=21156]Anocxu[/MENTION]
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Anocxu Wrote:So this is the new structure of GaySpeak..?
We have active members from all walks of life that are more respectful and engaging than ever..
I truly love this group ..
Also the range in age and experience of this group contributes to this new dynamism .

With all the current members in place..
I am looking forward to learning from and growing with all of you..

Thanks again guys. .


Hugs for every one
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