Spellbound Wrote:I had a bad start to life but I made it anyway, and so can other people.
i don't mean to be harsh or offensive or anything like that , but you can't compare your experiences to those of everyone else . some people go through things that they have a much harder time getting through than other people do
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Spellbound Wrote:Old men walking around town without their shirts on. All that wrinkled sagging flesh and the white chest beard!
Fat people crammed into those tight cycling shorts. Yuuuuck!
That's kind of a turn on for me...
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@megumidesu
The point I was making is that many people have problems but manage to solve them. If you're fat, figure out a way to get normal-sized. Don't expect me to pay for your medical treatment.
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megumidesu Wrote:Dreamer Wrote:
just out of interest , why is that ?
Because I've had my share of crazy ass, helpless motherfuckas in the past....
more than enough for one lifetime.
I don't need nor want the drama!
In the end of all things, I can only help myself, and not anyone else.
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KawaiiKitty Wrote:I just think its alittle insensitive to include obese people on a list such as this when in most cases its not something that they can readily control. Its not just a matter of simply telling them to eat vegetables and exercise more. Thats the equivalent of me telling you to go date a man to help you stop being a lesbian. Its just not that simple.
It's not being insensitive,
it's being honest,
and realistic.
For the majority of my life growing up,
I used to be a lard ass myself,
so actually,
IT IS a matter of simply changing one's diet
and exercise routine.
Sorry to burst your pity-party bubble.
And no,
telling someone to lose weight [SIZE="2"]
(something that IS possible!)
[/SIZE] is NOT equivalent to telling someone to change their sexual orientation [SIZE="2"]
(something that IS NOT possible!)[/SIZE].
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Dreamer Wrote:Because I've had my share of crazy ass, helpless motherfuckas in the past....
more than enough for one lifetime.
I don't need nor want the drama!
In the end of all things, I can only help myself, and not anyone else.
You can get drama in many other cases where the person isn't mentally ill, you're just tarring all mentally ill people with the same brush.
Also, this thread is a turn off. Some of you guys are really picky when it comes to partners....
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KawaiiKitty Wrote:ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE FOLKS WE JUST CURED OBESITY AND HOMOSEXUALITY!
/sarcasm
Well, funny thing is, buddy, there IS a cure for obesity... it's called losing weight!
KawaiiKitty Wrote:Do you really think that the majority of overweight people WANT to be overweight? really?
No one's saying that.
KawaiiKitty Wrote:Do you think they woke up one day and said, "hey I think Im going to gain 300 lbs just so that I can be ridiculed by society and not fit into my clothes and with my friends and be shunned by society and probably die really early in life of a heart attack!"
Well, obviously, it takes a lot of time and effort to gain 300 lbs, so it probably took a few hundred to thousand mornings to make that decision.
KawaiiKitty Wrote:Do you really think people consciously want to make that choice? Like I said it runs much MUCH deeper than it just being a simple "choice."
... they may not want to (maybe subconsciously),
but they consciously do make that choice.
And it's still a choice, no matter which way you scramble this egg.
Granted, for some people, it's a MUCH deeper choice than for others.
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KawaiiKitty Wrote:You can get drama in many other cases where the person isn't mentally ill
That's obviously without a doubt, but the risks of drama from someone mentally ill are sooo MUCH higher
KawaiiKitty Wrote:you're just tarring all mentally ill people with the same brush.
Well it's a brush that's exceeds 23 years of experience... so yeah.
KawaiiKitty Wrote:Also, this thread is a turn off. Some of you guys are really picky when it comes to partners.... I'd say it's a good thing being picky, since it reduces your chances of getting with someone you don't want in the long run.
Obviously, no one is perfect, so if anything, turn ons and turn offs are simply a guide into selecting the closest thing to one's ideal match, when selecting a mate, or anyone else (for that matter), in your inner-circle.
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VileKyle Wrote:I may be harsh in saying so, but that's not going to change. It's the same stance I take on smokers. Smoking is a lifestyle that is very difficult to quit. You still put yourself there by taking up that lifestyle. The only difference is that obesity is a less conscious choice. You may not know you are putting yourself in that addiction loop, but you are still doing it. It's hard to get out, but not impossible. Meanwhile, you are making yourself less healthy and less attractive in the process, much like smoking. I don't hate you for doing it, but you have to understand that I could never date someone like that. I stand by the "yuck" response.
thats really not a good comparison either since with smoking you can quit cold turkey. You MUST eat food to live its not something you can give up completely. Even comparing it to being gay you could give that up completely by not ever having any kind of relationship ever again but you still need food to survive. Hurling any insult at someone in a predicament that they can hardly change is very insensitive to say the least.
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Dreamer Wrote:It's not being insensitive,
it's being honest,
and realistic.
For the majority of my life growing up,
I used to be a lard ass myself,
so actually,
IT IS a matter of simply changing one's diet
and exercise routine.
Sorry to burst your pity-party bubble.
And no,
telling someone to lose weight [SIZE="2"]
(something that IS possible!)
[/SIZE] is NOT equivalent to telling someone to change their sexual orientation [SIZE="2"]
(something that IS NOT possible!)[/SIZE].
Actually it is quite possible to lie to yourself and then change the person you are going out with to the opposite gender. Thats basically what you are telling obese people to do. You are telling them to lie to themselves and tell themselves that being skinny is the way they should look instead of what they feel is comfortable within themselves. But in both cases you are simply trying to fix the symptoms and not the root of the problem. Until you fix the emotional issues that plague the obese person you can tell them to go on 3000 different diets and it will do 0 good. Yes they might lose the weight through diligence but eventually those emotions will catch up to them.
Its still not as easy and simple as you make it out to be. I really cant believe the insensitivity people are showing in this thread. Its really amazingly astounding the hypocrisy in the gay community when it comes to this.
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