Marriage equality just won a HUGE battle!!!!

[palbert]

[palbert]

St. Louis, Missouri

Today, November 5, St. Louis Circuit Judge Rex Burlison ruled that denying the freedom to marry to same-sex couples in Missouri is unconstitutional. The big victory, for now, applies only to St. Louis, but it paves the way for the a statewide decision and marks a historic and joyous day in the Show Me State.

http://www.freedomtomarry.org/blog/entry...ry-in-stat

[Virge]

We in South Dakota are still on hold waiting for the judge to issue a ruling after hearing on Oct 16th. I listen to local talk radio in the mornings. People here are really changing their minds about this now they realize how much the state is going to be paying out if they take this to the Supreme Court and lose. So far over 40 lawyers have signed on to help the plaintiff's attorneys. If the state loses at the Supreme Court level they are going to have to pay allllllllllllll the fees of allllllllllllllllllllllll the lawyers....

[Miles]

South Carolina is the last holdout in the 4th circuit. Nikki Haley won the election, you can give it a rest Alan Wilson

[palbert]

BREAKING

Equality Case Files tweets

6th Circuit decision in #MI #KY #OH #TN marriage cases. District court decision reversed https://www.scribd.com/doc/245767271/14-...t-Decision …

Well, we'll see what the Supreme Court does . . . .

[LJay]

So, in plain language, is they is or did they didn't?

[palbert]

So, in plain language, is they is or did they didn't?

In plain language the 6th Circuit has upheld the marriage ban as it exists in those states over which it has federal appellate jurisdiction.

"The decision was based largely on the two-judge majority’s view that the question of whether to move the nation toward same-sex marriage in every state is for the people or the states, and not for judges applying the national Constitution."

There are two possible remaining steps:

1. Someone will ask for en banc review by the entire 6th Circuit panel, as opposed to the initial 3 judges; The likelihood of an en banc hearing is remote.

2. The appellate decision will be appealed to the Supreme Court.

[Rareboy]

Well aren't they just cunts.

[East]

This was expected by many...and one reason why it is important to vote.

Many times...the only thing on my mind at the end is who will be appointing the judges....

[Virge]

Yep..... Looks like the Supreme Court will be taking this one on.
here's a quote from the opinion, stress added.

From the vantage point of 2014, it would now seem, the question is not whether American law will allow gay couples to marry; it is when and how that will happen.

The judges are trying define who has the responsibility for making it legal.
#1, Should it be decided in state legislatures?
#2. Should it be decided by referendum?
#3. Should the courts rule on it?

Here's something to think about. If civil rights had been decided by #1 or #2 they would not have enacted for the whole nation for at least 20 years after Martin Luther King's time. State legislatures and referendums don't determine what is right. They determine what is most popular by majority vote. That's when democracy becomes a tyranny of the majority.

The judges admit that marriage for gays is inevitable. They haven't ruled against it. It's likely the Supreme Court might send it back to them to rule on.