Bubble Wrote:hey "normal" battle continue  think no need to cling to the words...all words such as "normal", 'happy", "sad"...have own meanings to each person, so maybe it is better just try to support each other but not to have the lecture about meaning of the word....
Yeah...OK...but the word "normal" has been used as a weapon against gay people forever so it is especially important to understand your use of the word...and I think important to understand what kind of message you are going to give your children about other gay people in relation to what "normal" people want....
Also...I don't support a lot of people having children...most of them are straight....
I give my support (and $$$) to Father Flanagans Home for Boys (and Girls)....I worry about abused and neglected children..alot. I am always on their side. I would never just give blanket support to anyone who wanted to have children .....
I do recognize the language barriers now and accept that but I think it is important to address the use of the term normal...it is a valid concern when you are gay.
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Bubble Wrote:hey "normal" battle continue think no need to cling to the words...all words such as "normal", 'happy", "sad"...have own meanings to each person, so maybe it is better just try to support each other but not to have the lecture about meaning of the word.... Thank you for understanding
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East Wrote:Yeah...OK...but the word "normal" has been used as a weapon against gay people forever so it is especially important to understand your use of the word...and I think important to understand what kind of message you are going to give your children about other gay people in relation to what "normal" people want.... How can I, being gay, use some words as a weapon against gay people? Isn't it stupid? And as for message to my children, I'll tell them, that there are gays and there are straight people. I depends on them, what way to chose. But whatever they do, they will have all the possibilities to live a life they want
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Hi Adam,
I think [MENTION=18508]East[/MENTION] just means that we need to be mindful about how we phrase things. By the looks of things if English isn't your first language then that's harder but I'm sure that you didn't meant to be attacking our own (although there are some closeted gays who are so homophobic...makes me feel sad that they do it instead of accepting who they are....maybe they can't)
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ck86 Wrote:Hi Adam,
I think [MENTION=18508]East[/MENTION] just means that we need to be mindful about how we phrase things. By the looks of things if English isn't your first language then that's harder but I'm sure that you didn't meant to be attacking our own (although there are some closeted gays who are so homophobic...makes me feel sad that they do it instead of accepting who they are....maybe they can't) You are right. the same word may have completely different meanings for different people. And mother tongue doesn't matter. People may have one mother tongue, but one word has for them absolutely different meaning. I didn't mean to hurt anyone, and I'm really sorry if I did it. As for homophobic gays, it is really difficult to accept who you are. I spent many years trying to understand myself, but now I'm almost happy and I love the life I live
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Adam Wrote:You are right. the same word may have completely different meanings for different people. And mother tongue doesn't matter. People may have one mother tongue, but one word has for them absolutely different meaning. I didn't mean to hurt anyone, and I'm really sorry if I did it. As for homophobic gays, it is really difficult to accept who you are. I spent many years trying to understand myself, but now I'm almost happy and I love the life I live
I'm glad you got to a happier place :-) once I was out of the closet I felt so much better in myself too.
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ck86 Wrote:I'm glad you got to a happier place :-) once I was out of the closet I felt so much better in myself too. Wen you understand who you are, what is your mission in this world and why do you live, you'll always feel better. But, unfortunately, many of people think, that their life is useless or see the sense of life in some stupid things, like drugs, alcohol, sex without love. But it happens only because such people have conflict inside themselves, in their souls
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Adam Wrote:Wen you understand who you are, what is your mission in this world and why do you live, you'll always feel better. But, unfortunately, many of people think, that their life is useless or see the sense of life in some stupid things, like drugs, alcohol, sex without love. But it happens only because such people have conflict inside themselves, in their souls
Some people are stuck in crappy situations unfortunately. Not sure how that to help them tho.
But not sure if I believe truly in the soul concept.
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ck86 Wrote:Some people are stuck in crappy situations unfortunately. Not sure how that to help them tho.
But not sure if I believe truly in the soul concept. It is individually, whether to believe in the soul concept or not. As for me, I think, that we have not only physical body. There is something else. We cannot see it or touch it, but we always feel when it hurts.
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[MENTION=22019]Adam[/MENTION]
Absolutely. I have no problem with people having a faith concept �� :-) sorry if it came across that way.
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