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Stop Bullying, Stop Suicide.
#21
I wasn't bullied that bad as I was lucky to almost always have people who would help and/or avenge me and bullies knew it or learned it real fast. And while I did catch a lot of flak when I was in East Texas other outcasts stood by me and my family stomped on anyone (and made it known they would, even if they didn't like me themselves) so that I experienced very little fear. It did get awkward at times because some guys gravitated toward me believing the slut rumors about me (I was also a satanist and a witch according to some of the locals), but others thought I was cool for having publicly ticked off the most popular preacher in town, and I even got invited to parties by older kids because of that (of course I never went without my 17-year-old cousin Zack).

I had been locked up when I was 13 and I got bullied there a lot (the other kids were mostly 15 and older and I was the smallest one there), though the adults were far, far worse so it's more of a detail. That was the one place where I didn't have anyone to protect me, and it traumatized me very bad.

Other than that I was merely shunned, but as I always had at least one friend and enjoyed escaping in books anyway it didn't really bother me.

But I saw such horrible bullying everywhere I'd been. I saw jocks torment one boy (I have no idea why they singled guys like him out, but they did like to call them "fags" and "queers") until their victim brought a knife and stabbed the lead jock for which he was arrested and convicted for and sent to some correctional school, but I didn't blame him. The school faculty pretended shock but they knew about it, because I saw them watching the bullying (and I mean like shoving him down and kicking him right in the cafeteria) at the same time I'd been watching it, and they did it repeatedly for months before that boy brought a knife to school.

Oh yeah, just before games jocks would claim several lunch tables and put them together and they didn't care if anyone was sitting there, they'd tell them to leave or they'd throw them out of their chairs, and the office would back them and instead go after their victims who resisted.

The cheerleaders were just as bad, and I want to share what they did that made me hate them before they made the mistake of trying to bully me. One thing they did was deny one girl the chance to be a cheerleader and when the girl's parents made the school let her join somehow she was soon hospitalized after she was thrown in the air and the cheerleaders "forgot" to catch her. They targeted 2 girls and tormented them mostly with words but it was vicious. They spread they caught the 2 of them having sex in the shower which I didn't believe and any girl who had anything to do with them were "possible girlfriends" so that other girls wouldn't get near them, and the 2 even stopped being friends because they didn't want to be the lesbian couple. One stopped coming to school one day and I have no idea why (moved, homeschooled, suicide or suicide attempt, ranaway from home, who knows) and then the other was hospitalized after she tried suicide. While I kept my distance I really hated them along with the jocks for their sadism, and how the school gave them a free pass to do what they wanted.

Well after I came back from being a runaway the school put me in ABC (Adaptive Behavior Class), and though the teachers sucked I became friends with every single classmate (it probably helped that there were only 2 other girls and we were kept separate from the rest of the school so that we usually only mixed with other kids coming in and waiting to catch the bus home). I'm sure I was left alone for awhile because of the other ABC kids, but one day I was off to myself to work on a poem (waiting for the bus) when the cheerleaders came to me and started giving me a hard time for being a lesbian (not that I identified as anything, and I doubt they really believed it).

As I said I already hated them, but they were bothering me and I knew if I didn't stop it then they would continue. And I remember thinking of all I'd faced as a runaway like violent skins, adult men who tried sexually assaulting me, and a large man who tried to kidnap me for a pimp, and I was downright contemptuous about sheltered cheerleaders trying to give me a hard time. So I did what no other girl had done before--I stomped her into the ground. I was brutal as I was trying to be fast before the other cheerleaders tried helping her but they didn't do more than shriek (my adrenaline was intense and I don't recall what they shrieked) but suddenly I was lifted up by one hand by a jock--the cheerleader's boyfriend I found out later, and apparently an important player on the football team--and with his other hand punched me so hard that I was on the ground and couldn't stand up because the world kept tilting on me (he hit me too close to my ear).

Then the jock was tackled by my male ABC classmates and beaten while I recall a couple of them daring other jocks to join in. As that happened the other ABC girl present helped me to stand up and got me on my bus. I saw several coaches and faculty talking to the boys in the brawl (which had stopped by that time) as the bus left.

As soon as I got to ABC the next morning I was sent to the office. The principal didn't care that I had such an intense bruise on my face (among other marks) that I actually couldn't talk without sounding funny and he actually tried to make me feel guilty that the football player who punched me had to go to the hospital and was going to miss the next game, possibly more, and that we'd (me and the other ABC kids) had really hurt the school. I was scathingly sarcastic about the principal not caring after what that jock did to my face and I reminded him of all the brutality the jocks and cheerleaders visited on their victims while he did nothing so I didn't give a damn about him or the school because him and the school didn't give a damn about anyone who wasn't a jock, and I told him what my cousin Zack liked to say: if you poke a snake with a stick then it's your own fault if you get bit. He said I had a terrible attitude problem and gave me in school suspension (all the boys who jumped the jock all got some kind of suspension, too, some in with me while others were suspended out of school). I heard ABC had less than 5 kids left while we were all suspended. Rolleyes

Later, the cheerleaders tried one more time, though from a safe distance. I was with another ABC girl when they asked her if she was my girlfriend as I was an obvious lesbian. We looked at each other and pretended to kiss to show them just how much we cared what they had to say. They freaked (I'm betting the cheerleaders thought I REALLY WAS a lesbian then and didn't want me to get violent again as I might not stop at beating one of them next time :tongue: ).

And so that was that. Near the end of the school year Columbine happened and there was a general assembly that even we in ABC had to go to and the principal urged us to turn in the names of anyone who might be angry enough to do something similar there. As one of the ABC guys said, "Dude, that's everyone I know!" Of course their only concern was about protecting their beloved jocks from nonconformists and anyone else that got picked on. And I found out through the internet that I got on the next school year (though I no longer went to school as I'd runaway from home again) that schools across America were doing the same, cracking down on anyone weird (gay, goth, pagan, geeky) and it was called the "geek hunts." I did good to get out when I could, because as good as the other kids were they couldn't have protected me anymore than themselves from what the adults were doing.

Gods, I'm so glad I don't have to go to school anymore. Life really does get better.

(And I apologize for this being so long, I just lost all track of time while typing this. :redfaceSmile
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#22
Bullying is dangerously understated and thus is brushed under the rug, it has become a norm.
Make no mistake bullying is a hate crime , that destroys the lives of so many innocents.

These heinous acts destroy individuality, and drive a wedge so deep into the heart of society that the structure of a family can be destroyed forever.

These kids that hae been through so much need a safehaven , where they won't be judged and where someone is willing to listen to their burden and offer solace.

A problem shared is a problem halved.

I have two shoulders one to cry on the other to lean on , if anyone needs to talk , or rant .you are more than welcome to PM me.

I promise to listen without judgement.
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#23
Rainbowmum Wrote:A problem shared is a problem halved.

I have two shoulders one to cry on the other to lean on , if anyone needs to talk , or rant .you are more than welcome to PM me.

I promise to listen without judgement.

I put my hand up as well. I was a gay teen many years ago in a time when it was tough being gay, so I am empathetic to anyones struggles and want to be the one that you can unload your frustrations on and seek advice.

I'm here with Mum :-)
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#24
My opinion is that "older" gay or bisexual people should live open gay , open bisexual... to show the world gay people are not freaks .. no blue dogs with red ears... show that we are just people who love the same gender, not more not less. Like some german politicians...
Thats the only way to stop bullying....

In the most straight heads its burned in that we are all drag Queens ( nothing against drag queens .. but not every gay or bi is a drag queen ) wearing women clothes and whatever...

That a gay man can be more masculine as a straight man is so exotic for straight people that they can´t imagine it. As long as we hide us... we can´t be accepted.... and the gay/bi youth would be seen as exactly these women-clothes-wearing-blue-dogs-with-red-ears... and is a target for not good educated or bad informed people.
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#25
That is a 100% valid opinion fenris and I agree, there is great value in being more visable as the non-scene gays and lesbians as we seem to blend in and not get the same sort of notice as what flambouyant and at times overly flambount gays and lesbians get.

As open and honest as I am about my sexuality in my every day life, I'm not what some person walking off the street would pick as a gay man, so besides perhaps being more flambouyant, how do I let people know without advertising my sexuality?

So yes, openess and honesty is a key and thank you for suggesting it, and it is an important part of a bigger picture.
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#26
dfiant Wrote:I'm not what some person walking off the street would pick as a gay man, so besides perhaps being more flambouyant, how do I let people know without advertising my sexuality?

I think only by not hiding... this here is a really small village.. only a few hundred people. As I moved here they thought at first that I´m divorced ... but then they saw that my man is here regulary. Then some rumors came up ... and a women from my neighbourship told me "They say you are gay.." .. I answered only .."If you want to ask me something, feel free to ask.. but don´t think that I tell you something about me without asking"... she stopped... never asked again.... its her Problem. What she think and what not is not my problem...
Then my new neighbours moved in .. and that was really easy ... some invitation here ..some there ... meet them with and without my man ... and it was Ok. My neighbour told me if "your man is here I think we should have a barbeque in Summer" .. It was more a problem to explain that I´m a vegetarian :-)
Now I live here more then 5 years ... and nobody ask anything... they know how it works here :-) Sometimes I have to explain something and some people are "anti-gay" ..but that are people I wich I don´t want to meet ..straight or gay ..they are only stupid. ...
My experiences are that it is much more easy to live open ...

A funny situation was... My man and I walked with the dogs... late night ... a neighbour came the next day to borrow some sugar ... and said " people talk about you ... you should not walk with "this man" and your dogs" ... I asked back : "What do you do with your man if the dogs need to go out ... lock him into the bathroom or the wardrobe?
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#27
I want to add my story to the collective. Everyone that has posted glimpses of their life has been bullied. Perhaps there are some of us that haven't experienced it. It would be good for the unknown viewers looking at this thread to know that not everyone everywhere gets bullied.

I wasn't bullied. I had a couple enemies for reasons I didn't understand, but they did nothing more than harden their looks or snark occasionally. I did nothing more than brush them off like a bunch of idiots I knew they were. Growing up, I was an outcast to the whole school social structure. I'm naturally a quiet person and in school, I would only speak when a teacher called on me for an answer, but I had brilliant conversations in my head about science, writing, and the new programming project I was working on. I had friends, but I only considered them to be associates because they weren't good enough to have the title of true friend. I knew a lot of people felt or knew I was gay in high school, yet no one negatively confronted me. The only occasion is when someone scratched "fag" on my locker, but I didn't care since he/she didn't have the balls to confront me. He had to hide in anonymity. Looking back on it all now, I have not seen any bullying throughout my schooling in Florida. The only anit-gay slirrs I heard was everyone using "That's so gay" or football players calling each other fag, but that's what was "in" and the "cool" thing to say. I was surrounded by idiots. My high school is in the country, the boonies, there was a cow pasture right next to the school. So, to say the least, this is where the super conservative, bull headed, thick sculled idiots roamed. 97% of the student body was hick white. I was not harassed for being Asian and having colored skin and straight black hair. There would be times when my hair would stand straight up in the back, but I didn't care to comb it down, too early in the morning to care. And still, out of the many times it happened, only one person laughed and said, "Nice hair". Shit, I would have laughed, lol.

Although there are many horror stories, not everyone is bullied. And if you are, get help. If your teacher will not do anything, go higher. Go to the dean, then the assistant principal, then the principal, then the super intendant. And after all that, still no help, make that bitch nationwide by going to the news. The bad publicity will fuck everyone you went to and didn't care over. That's what a number of other families who couldn't get help did. Now those schools have gay education for their faculty and anti-bullying policies.
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#28
Are there active moderators on this forum. My post was flagged and needs approval from a moderator (i cussed) and it is rather long. I don't want to type it all over again...
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#29
I see what you mean more clearly now fenris, and totally agree, I have always been of the same thought that if someone doesn't like you because you are gay, then it is their problem not mine. I also agree that living openly and honeslty is a lot easier than living a lie.

BinarySurfer, Andy is the active moderator and I look forward to reading your long post. Once you get your post count up, I think it is over 50, then your posts in threads like 'advice' won't need to go through moderation. As I am sure you can appreciate, an advice thread is so very important and it is sad that there are trolls that would post in those threads with false and potentially damaging advice, particularly when vulnerable teens and youth are involved.
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#30
Bullies are nothing but cowards they see something in someone they dont like and they have to prise it open to explore what it is thats bothering them..... Its sad lonley and very very weakening... I was bullied for many years as a child not only by people in school with name calling from the age of 5 to 16 but also at home with my alcoholic step father of 12 years.... I ended up cracking at the age of 10 and walking infront of a car travelling around 40mph... I now suffer pain in the winter with my knee but i refuse to let the bullies of life win even as an adult... I may get shit from time to time as an adult for not only being gay but being a decent person... The job i do envoles abuse from the public but to be honest nothing would ever make me go back to how i was when i was 10 because from all this crap in school one thing ive learnt is its made me a stronger person... A stronger person mentally and physically... I have many scars all over me from various bullied journeys on lifes path but none of them have made me crack completely and at the end of a moment your able to collect your pieces and thoughts forgive and forget and move onwards and upwards....

Its better to help the bully as a victim than the bully to help the victim

Kindest regards

zeon xx
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