10-27-2011, 02:26 PM
i see trouble with the concealed permit laws.
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
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10-27-2011, 02:26 PM
i see trouble with the concealed permit laws.
10-27-2011, 04:33 PM
Inchante Wrote:I would be willing to bet that there are more guns percapita in the low crime areas of the U.S. than there are in the high crime areas . . . not that I think that is due to deterrence. [SIZE="3"][COLOR="Navy"] Well Inchante Living in an area where there are no guns allowed, and hardly ever if any gun crimes, I'm amazed by those who think guns are a good thing to deter crime? People with guns will always attract people with guns?[/COLOR][/SIZE]
10-27-2011, 07:22 PM
Almac Wrote:[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Navy"]It has nothing to do with the availability of guns or not and has everything to do with culture. US culture is much more violent. Take away guns over here and then watch how many people get trampled by brutes who just happen to be physically stronger and take advantage of the weak.
10-27-2011, 10:54 PM
Almac Wrote:[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Navy"] I believe I stated that it has anything to do with deterrence in my post. Mine is speculation, but it seems that most gun owners here have them for hunting and those who hunt tend to live in more rural areas which do have lower crime rates. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...-guns.html And while there is a higher gun crime rate in the U.S. than Britain (logical since it is very hard to get a gun there) England and Whales have a higher crime rate overall than the U.S. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/l...study.html So, so much for guns breeding crime.
10-27-2011, 10:58 PM
AlephNull Wrote:It has nothing to do with the availability of guns or not and has everything to do with culture. US culture is much more violent. Take away guns over here and then watch how many people get trampled by brutes who just happen to be physically stronger and take advantage of the weak. You might want to look at the article I just posted. The British aren't all that peaceful a people either.
11-26-2011, 10:38 AM
If we lived in a perfect world I would say no to guns but the problem is that the people who use them illegally now are never going to stop and one of the only deterrents them have is not knowing whether their intended victim is armed or not in instances such as home invasions/robberies/carjacking. I would like to keep that deterrent in place so I am in favor of regulated and licensed gun ownership,
11-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Gun ownership or the right to ban arms isn't the major contributing factor to crime, drugs and unemployment. Take away guns, crime, violent or other wise will still happen. There is a black market after all, then there are knives and blood filled syringes...but deal with the drug problems and unemployment is the only way to make a serious dent in crime.
BUT i don't see that happening because drugs, enemployment and crime are industries within themselves.
12-13-2011, 12:21 AM
1. What is confusing about "shall not be infringed"?
2. What is going to stop you from being car jacked? Calling a cop on your cell phone or putting a gun in your hand? 3. More people in the US own guns than own swimming pools. As compared to swimming pool deaths, gun accidents/deaths are not even statistically relevant. 4. 95% of violent crimes stopped by an armed citizen in the US are stopped when the perpetrator learned that someone else is armed. In other words, an armed citizen doesn't even need to brandish a weapon to stop the crime 95% of the time. 5. Shots are fired in less than 1% of instances in the US where an armed citizen stops a violent crime. 6. The instances of parents with guns in the home experiencing a serious accident involving their children and their gun is statistically miniscule provided they have taught gun safety. You wanna put your kids at risk? Put in a pool. 7. I wonder...does a criminal with evil intent pay attention to the "gun-free zone" or is it only the law abiding citizen? So when evil intentions are manifested, will Barney Fife get there in time? 8. Church shooting in Denver...mall shooting in Utah...school shooting in Tennessee. All (and many, many more) were stopped by armed citizen legally carrying a weapon. In Tennessee, the teacher had to run a quarter mile to his car, retrieve his gun (because it was not legal to have it within 1,500 feet of the school), run a quarter mile back and then stop the perpetrator. Unfortunately, during his track meet, the gunman killed several people who would be alive today if the teacher was allowed to carry in the school, or even park in the parking lot. 9. Virginia Tech...twice. How many more need to die before that particular university (and all the others like it) finally allows law abiding students to exercise the right guaranteed to them in the US Constitution? I wonder...what is faster? A bullet traveling 1,000 feet per second or a text message telling the target that there is a gunman on campus? 10. Will registering guns with the government make us safer or will it serve to allow the government to know where to go to confiscate the guns when it deems necessary? I could go on and on...On a side note, in many states, it is illegal to carry a weapon in all three of the places listed in #8. Makes you wonder why thugs choose those places to terrorize. Luckily, two of those thugs were unaware that it was legal to have a weapon in the places they chose to shoot up, which is why they won't be joining us, or anyone else, for dinner. Luckily, countless others are still joining their families for dinner because a citizen exercised his or her right to keep AND BEAR arms. I could go on and on...
12-13-2011, 07:25 PM
I am a firm believer in the right to bear arms. I have owned firearms since I was 18. Before that I use to spend a lot of time with my father learning to safely handle and shoot firearms. I came to understand the destructive power of them and the need for responsibility in all aspects of life. I now have many weapons of all types. I have a concealed weapon permit also.
In the end each person has to provide for their own personal protection. The choice in how they will secure that must be left up to them. I just ask that I have that same ability, to choose how I will protect myself and the people I love.
12-13-2011, 10:23 PM
Everyone who wants a gun will own one (black market or over the counter). All this junk dosnt matter, a society has to balance out the good and bad so whatever floats the boat is what we wind up with. The lack of social experience really defines the red neck.
-The smart gay will do whatever to achieve a smooth running household. Let them have the tv if it means not blasting up the dry wall to keep it. -Nothing good happens after midnight anyway so is it worth 6 hours of your time + the expense of a lawyer explaining to the courts why you had to use the weapon? -A hand gun has less than functional accuracy, carry a spray or tazer. dfiant Wrote:Gun ownership or the right to ban arms isn't the major contributing factor to crime, drugs and unemployment. Take away guns; crime, violent or other wise will still happen. dfiant Wrote:but deal with the drug problems and unemployment is the only way to make a serious dent in crime |
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