H.O.P.E (homosexuals opposed to pride extremism)

[Bowyn Aerrow]

BA, please...that's not intellectually honest to take a random image, you know that media will sell more papers if they shoot "shocking" images.

Maybe 90% of the people you meet in GP are normal...just like them :


The kind of deduction that is done with what you find on the internet :


Will you forbid every gay erotic or porn websites? Will you forbid people who have uncommon practices to actually practice? No! It's their private life...however, people can be stupid enough to say that it's a gay thing by seeing only one video.

Otherwise, for me, the pix you posted are not shocking, I mean, not more shocking than Rio carnaval for instance. So, why don't we say that allowing Rio Carnaval is something that tarnishes the images of Brazilians in the world?

If cultures had to change regarding to what other peoples think of them, there would be no difference between people. It's your right not to like it, but don't say it hurts more than it gives benefits to gay people.

Gay pride is not done in private.

People are stupid, even before the Internets we had this high level of stupidity. Trust me, I was down in the trenches fighting for 'gay rights' with bigots and haters who all had very clear (simplistic even) ideas of what 'gay' means based on what little they have seen and witnessed.

Like it or not, gay pride parades are at the front of our group when it comes to representation. No one actually talks about gay porn - straights can't actually say anything now since there are so many straight porn sites that do incredibly shocking things.

Rio/Carnival/Mardi Gras - those are isolated events that do not represent 'straight people'. Gay Pride represents all gays. Oh and As for Brazilians I can think of a few people who have told me just how primitive those brown skinned people are and they point to Carnival as their example.

Yes the media takes the most shocking pictures. If the media can't be smart enough to take pictures of the families (LGBT with their kids) perhaps we need to tone down our parades and have LGBT parents with their kids marching be the most shocking thing we have in order for the media to be forced to take pictures of that instead of focusing on the barely clad bodies.

Gay pride takes place on the street in public. This isn't like the couple who turn to heavy BDSM in their own home dungeon or have wild orgies of carefully selected party goers. This is on the street and stands as representation of the whole LGBT community under the guise of 'Gay Pride'.

And I don't forbid anyone anything. I'm just pointing out that our actions have consequences and those consequences are far reaching and often never actually coming home to roost, but end up roosting on some other person's door step, like the kids that are bullied to suicide based on the 'common knowledge' of how perverse gays are. Or those unfortunates who were beaten to death being taught a lesson in 'God's Love' and how gos hates fags and their perversion because, like or not, the most well known instances of what 'gay' is are the media reports that shock the general population reporting a soundbite and a few images of Gay Pride which is, to the general public, represented as a sex-fest.

I personally don't care if the actions of others leads to homosexuality being made illegal and a mandatory death sentence, or if it leads to yet one more wasted life beaten and hung on a fence to die. It is not MY actions that lead to that, so I have no guilt.

I would be less than humane if I allowed such activities lead to such connections by others in my group, saying nothing does leave me with guilt.

I said my bit on the matter, the next person killed by a gang of bigots who view all fags as sexual deviants isn't because I failed to stop it.

[dfiant1]

Yes the media takes the most shocking pictures. If the media can't be smart enough to take pictures of the families (LGBT with their kids) perhaps we need to tone down our parades and have LGBT parents with their kids marching be the most shocking thing we have in order for the media to be forced to take pictures of that instead of focusing on the barely clad bodies.

This times a million, articulated in the exact way some of us have been trying to express.

[Joshular]

What she said!^^^

[OrphanPip]

Whether people like it or not, sex is at the centre of what it means to be gay. It is not how we love that is objected to by those who oppress gay rights, it is how we fuck. Deal with it.

[HumbleTangerine]

You simply can't expect people from a certain "community" to normalize themselves so the generalizing and prejudiced masses won't judge the entire community itself based on their behaviour. You can't tell flamboyant homosexuals to tone it down so your buddies at work might still respect you as a stereotypical manly man and you can't tell homosexuals not to be promiscuous or sexually outgoing for the sake of destroying a stereotype.

As previously mentioned, I don't care for pride parades, at least not in my own country. But it's sad to see so many gay individuals whining about being misrepresented. If that's the case, then the problem lies within the prejudiced spectators who happen to generalize an entire group of people based on what they see in the streets. People who attend pride parades should not be punished for the ignorance of those who generalize their behaviour and apply it to all LGBTQ individuals.

[East]

Jut wondering...were the two guys who married each other at the Rose Parade this year on the float "hurting our image?"....because the same people who so many of you are worried about...what they think...NEWSFLASH...they hated that too....and it was so so very "straight and proper" for those lovebirds to get married on the float. These same homophobes STILL claim that "we" are "shoving it down their throat".

Isn't it odd how millions of gay people are responsible for one wedding in these people's eyes? As though we are all one? And this is supposed to be our problem when the truth is the actual problem lies with the bigot.

I could point you all to the same exact conversations almost to the tee of a group of gay men bitching about how promiscuous gay men are doing the same thing for "our image"...or how effeminate gay men are doing the same thing to "our image"....they are all over the internet.

So many gay men worrying about how straight people are going to "see us"...

Oppressed groups of people will oppress each other...if you aren't familiar with the sociological phenomenon you should acquaint yourself with it.

[Chase]

It is time for a lesson in homosexuality by Jobe the homophobe!

Hi everybody, my name is Jobe. I consider myself a humble man who is much more righteous than most of the heathens these days. I am a very loving person and it breaks my heart to see that I am persecuted by the gay agenda and liberal media for my beliefs that homosexuals are abominations that should be imprisoned.
I want to explain to you why I, Jobe the homophobe, believes being a "homophobe" is a good thing. You see, us "homophobics" as the gay recruiters have labeled us as, do not have a phobia against homosexuals. It only frightens us that homosexuality has become rampant and we fear homosexuals are more prone to other wicked things like murder, rape, and other unspeakable things.
Let me help educate you on the behavior of the homosexual by comparing your typical "gay" to your typical average Joe:

Lenny is your average bloke. He has a wife, kids, and a house with a mortgage he works to pay off. Has a steady job. A good, righteous man.
Carl on the other hand, is a homosexual. He has an abomination he calls a marriage with another homosexual man. The heathens actually adopted children (makes me want to cry over how they are allowed to do this). His house may look like your typical Dick & Jane home, with a well kept lawn, garage, and tidy furniture, but mark my words, a Dick & Dick house has the most disgusting of sex acts that must be happening behind its closed doors (I don't even want to think about it). He has a job, probably had this secular law system force his employer to hire him. Probably took a mortgage he can't even afford. SICK!

Brandon is a man who lives a very humble life. Do to God cursing the economy because of its acceptance of homosexuality, Brandon is unemployed. But fear not, for the meek shall inherit the Earth. He is poor in this life because his reward is in heaven. He walks from town to town asking people to spare him a coin out of the love in their hearts. His clothes are rags, but he still keeps his head high. A good man.
Jack on the other hand, is a homosexual. From a young age he was seduced into the homosexual lifestyle, and has been cursed into a life of poverty ever since. If he had been straight, he would have been a hard working man. His perversion has reduced him to a beggar. His clothes reek a stench almost as foul as his perversion. tut tut tut

Pat is a man who has took the world for the taking! He has built a company from the ground up being the good straight boy that he is. From the top of the beautiful skyscraper he has erected, he has boosted the economy and given many hard working men jobs. He has earned millions, billions even, in his dedication. I can only hope my son is as successful as him one day.
Tim is a homosexual. He has sold his soul and the devil has built him a corporate empire at the cost sending his mind to reprobate homosexuality. The very building he has made his company headquarters in is a waste of resources. Millions employed by him are forced to have their bread & butter at the will of a homosexual deviant who plays God with their income. So wasteful is the decadence of the homosexual lifestyle that Tim hoards millions of dollars all to himself. Judgement will not be kind to him.


There are millions more of examples I can share with you, but I'd have to type you the Boston Library if I was to explain to you everything wrong with homosexuality and the homosexual lifestyle.
Until next time, this has been Jobe the homophobe! Peace out.

[Bowyn Aerrow]

Jut wondering...were the two guys who married each other at the Rose Parade this year on the float "hurting our image?"....because the same people who so many of you are worried about...what they think...NEWSFLASH...they hated that too....and it was so so very "straight and proper" for those lovebirds to get married on the float. These same homophobes STILL claim that "we" are "shoving it down their throat".

Isn't it odd how millions of gay people are responsible for one wedding in these people's eyes? As though we are all one? And this is supposed to be our problem when the truth is the actual problem lies with the bigot.

I could point you all to the same exact conversations almost to the tee of a group of gay men bitching about how promiscuous gay men are doing the same thing for "our image"...or how effeminate gay men are doing the same thing to "our image"....they are all over the internet.

So many gay men worrying about how straight people are going to "see us"...

Oppressed groups of people will oppress each other...if you aren't familiar with the sociological phenomenon you should acquaint yourself with it.

Were they wearing short shorts and being sexually suggestive? Or did they approach the marriage with a bit of conservative costume?

Even if one guy was wearing a white wedding dress with a train as long as the whole rose parade I would not be upset about it. I would be upset if they turned it into a sex-perience and flaunted sex to the world.

I don't have a problem with Gay Pride as a concept, I do have a problem with the overt sexual nature of it all.

[East]

Were they wearing short shorts and being sexually suggestive? Or did they approach the marriage with a bit of conservative costume?

Even if one guy was wearing a white wedding dress with a train as long as the whole rose parade I would not be upset about it. I would be upset if they turned it into a sex-perience and flaunted sex to the world.

I don't have a problem with Gay Pride as a concept, I do have a problem with the overt sexual nature of it all.

They could not have been more conservative in costume or mannerisms...

....see for yourself...



...and then see some of the comments. The bigots will convince you that it is "this or that" they don't like about "us" but it has nothing to do with that. It just sounds better when you are hating someone else based on prejudice to come up with an excuse to make yourself look better.

We shouldn't help or echo them IMO You see...if we are throwing each other under the bus we end up doing their job for them...and I would rather not

If you want to see examples of this same argument used against feminine men...just let me know...I can give you lots of examples.

[partis]

Why does the whole world want to see them getting married on a giant float…

At the pride in manchester (when there wasn't naked men dancing on top of a double decker bus) there was like a 17yo kid carrying a sign with "Im being bullied" on it.

I remember being bullied at school, the last thing I wanted to do was carry a sign in a parade. This kid probably got a facebook comment..

I dont know this kid, I dont know any of the personal lives of these people, whether there half naked or just looking self righteous and proud of themselves.