Straight guys and gay sex?

[East]

Dang! Sounds like you met the exact same guys my older gay friends were talking about! The reason this came to my mind is I think I have one of them trying to seduce me into seducing him. It's not like he's stalking me or anything but he's just too focused on me and arranging to run into me (always after dark) and always commando in jogging shorts. It's not like he can live in this town and know people I talk with everyday and not know already I'm gay --- so ---- it could be only one thing.

Yeah...you have probably called it right. They will let you know usually without saying a word.

[Virge]

So the 'straight' guys that approach you aren't really straight; they're like my two 'straight' friends. There are 'real' straights out there that would never approach you. That's what I'm trying to say.

I do know it's not as black and white as straight - bi - gay, though. In fact a lot of people probably fall somewhere in between.

See if you follow me on this.
Guys in prison who have sex with other guys are mostly straight. They aren't gay because of the sex act they do.

I call my self gay for simplicity's sake. I'm about equally attracted to men and women in the physical sense but am real fixated on monogamy. Also having that really special mental/soul to soul connection with a person is more important to me and a bigger to turn on than anything physical. Now that you know that am I bisexual or gay?

There are men who are straight who seek out gay men for gay sex that meets some need they have.

[Bowyn Aerrow]

Which is another reason why so many hate homosexuals and are confused about what homosexuality really is. That whole 'its a choice' thing is due to the preponderance of 'straight' men doing gay sex.

Long history demonstrates that males tend to have this open nature toward who they can have sex with as long as it follows rules of conduct that allows them to maintain the illusion they are straight. Example, no anal sex (don't take it), only having sex with the help/slaves:

Like---> The Centurion and His Pais (man-servant) sort of situation were very common back in the gay.... um.... day. The Centurion most likely had a wife and kids back in the Roman Empire yet he had his boy-toy that performs many activities, such as polishing the sword and of course polishing the real sword and shield and other weapons. It was safer than prostitutes back in the day before antibiotics people died from lots of interesting infections.

And there was a predominance of older guys taking on younger guys so called 'Man/Boy love' The situation was married men (straight) with boys on the side.

One of the reasons why I try to remove the emphasis on the sex part of homosexual, and get people to focus on the other emotional aspects is to make a distinction between the sex act and what ones orientation really is.

Penis likes holes - warm holes, tight holes, sloppy wet holes - penis doesn't really care about the gender. Ergo the Flesh-light exists.

Men, however, tend to favor one gender that they want to spend the rest of their life with, cuddling, holding, hugging and doing that commitment and companionship deal with which in some circles is called 'marriage'.

Those other things are what determines ones sexuality.

[Evan]

See if you follow me on this.
Guys in prison who have sex with other guys are mostly straight. They aren't gay because of the sex act they do.

I call my self gay for simplicity's sake. I'm about equally attracted to men and women in the physical sense but am real fixated on monogamy. Also having that really special mental/soul to soul connection with a person is more important to me and a bigger to turn on than anything physical. Now that you know that am I bisexual or gay?

There are men who are straight who seek out gay men for gay sex that meets some need they have.

Based on that I'd call you bi. But it doesn't really matter what you label yourself; it's not about labels.

What I'm saying is, there are guys who are really, really 100% straight. And they do not seek out gay men for gay sex. The guys that do, you can call them straight for simplicity's sake just like you call yourself gay for simplicities sake all you want, but they are not straight. That's just a label you give them, because apparently you feel it suits them best. But there's a difference in sexuality between guys like that and guys who would never approach a gay guy for sex; and that's why I'd never call the former completely straight.

In the end they're all just labels, though. It doesn't really matter. Either a guy wants to have sex with you or he doesn't. It shouldn't even matter what that means.

^ Those are just my personal views, though. Others may feel differently.

[Evan]

Those other things are what determines ones sexuality.

Couldn't disagree more. But that's okay :p

[Bluelight]

I once had a drunk straight guy hint at me that he wanted a BJ, but I can't really think of anything else... if any other "straight" guy has ever made moves on me, they were too subtle for me to notice haha

[TwisttheLeaf]

Straight guys don't have sex with other guys. If they do, then they're not straight. Simple as that.

I have to agree with this. Whether they define themselves as straight or not? If they're getting turned on by and screwing other men? They're not 100% straight... which sits them somewhere n the bisexual spectrum.

Straight guys don't get turned on by fucking other men. *Shrug*

That said? Back when I was single I used to love "popping cherries" of men who insisted they were straight but were curious about screwing a guy.

[Virge]

Couldn't disagree more. But that's okay :p

EUREKA! I found the answer!

"A person's sexual orientation is determined by the gender(s) they are inherently attracted to and most usually seek as sexual partners."

My very first gay experience at 18 was with my heterosexual best friend who had a bad case of peyronie's disease that made it impossible for him to penetrate anything. His full erection was like an upside down "J" He only wanted to experience ANYTHING sexual and had rationalized the only thing he could experience with another human was to be penetrated.
He had surgery to correct it while I was away in the marines. When I came home he was married with 2 kids & one on the way. He and I are still good friends and he has ZERO gay tendencies but has admitted he enjoyed being fucked by a guy.

Guys in prison aren't gay because they have sex with other guys.

There are lesbians who are prostitutes.

Gay Men and women who meet and marry through those fundamentalist sexual restorative therapies scams never become straight after they marry.

[Evan]

EUREKA! I found the answer!

"A person's sexual orientation is determined by the gender(s) they are inherently attracted to and most usually seek as sexual partners."

My very first gay experience at 18 was with my heterosexual best friend who had a bad case of peyronie's disease that made it impossible for him to penetrate anything. His full erection was like an upside down "J" He only wanted to experience ANYTHING sexual and had rationalized the only thing he could experience with another human was to be penetrated.
He had surgery to correct it while I was away in the marines. When I came home he was married with 2 kids & one on the way. He and I are still good friends and he has ZERO gay tendencies but has admitted he enjoyed being fucked by a guy.

Like I said, to me he's not straight. Straight guys who can't get it up (I know your friend had a disease -- I mean in general) don't go running off to guys.
Some straight guys who have the wish to be penetrated and are secure enough in their masculinity to explore, ask their girlfriends to use a strap-on. Because, you know.. they're straight.. they wanna be with girls.

Guys in prison aren't gay because they have sex with other guys.

True! It's a natural thing that in times where female company is non existent, males will turn to other males. It's purely natural. I see prison as one of the exceptions to my general rule.

There are lesbians who are prostitutes.

I think this is kind of a weird comparison. Prostitution has nothing to do with one's sexuality; it's about money. Obviously if you earn money by having sex, it's not about who you're attracted to; it's a job

Gay Men and women who meet and marry through those fundamentalist sexual restorative therapies scams never become straight after they marry.

Not sure what you're trying to say with this?

[East]

OK...I have to warn you first I am probably from another planet with my thinking but these are my observations for what they are worth....

I think we all have different levels of male and female energy inside of us that has NOTHING AT ALL to do with our sexual orientation. I think people are addicted to images...as in...what appears to be versus what *is*... and so the images of male and female are burned into our brains from day one as well as the roles that are assigned each of the sexes...and I think this is where the problem begins and ends.....

I think sometimes a man can have a female brain...or soul...or body...or spirit...and pretty much every combination of one or the other to every degree possible. It is nothing you can see...you have to be able to feel it. I have always openly stated that I wanted a man who was at least 40-60 either way but closer to 49/51. I really like men who physically have female energy and emotionally have male energy and a nice 50/50 split mentally.....I like someone with a 50/50 soul as well....

Most men who have a female body are actually straight ...some people call them pussy boys...and pussy boys are usually straight men...it is a little more difficult to find a bi man and almost impossible to find a gay version of this guy....but I did